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  • zippo!

    C++ For Win Or Visual C++ ???

    anyone say to me !!
    How To programmin with C++ For windows Without MFC!

  • Ron AF Greve

    #2
    Re: C++ For Win Or Visual C++ ???

    Hi,

    Just start a Win32 project or a complete empty project in Visual C++?

    MFC is just a framework you certainly do not have to use it. You could also
    use another framework for instance wxWidgets.


    Regards, Ron AF Greve



    "zippo!" <uzippo@gmail.c omwrote in message
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    anyone say to me !!
    How To programmin with C++ For windows Without MFC!
    >

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    • zippo!

      #3
      Re: C++ For Win Or Visual C++ ???

      On Jul 31, 3:46 pm, "Ron AF Greve" <ron@localhostw rote:
      Hi,
      >
      Just start a Win32 project or a complete empty project in Visual C++?
      >
      MFC is just a framework you certainly do not have to use it. You could also
      use another framework for instance wxWidgets.
      >
      Regards, Ron AF Greve
      >

      >
      "zippo!" <uzi...@gmail.c omwrote in message
      >
      news:180daaf4-19ea-4909-8f37-743f9546893b@k3 7g2000hsf.googl egroups.com...
      >
      anyone say to me !!
      How To programmin with C++ For windows Without MFC!
      >
      >
      so , which better ? Win32 Or MFC?

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      • Chris M. Thomasson

        #4
        Re: C++ For Win Or Visual C++ ???

        "zippo!" <uzippo@gmail.c omwrote in message
        news:9b607e63-ec41-493b-ae65-c98e904bb193@z7 2g2000hsb.googl egroups.com...
        On Jul 31, 3:46 pm, "Ron AF Greve" <ron@localhostw rote:
        >Hi,
        >>
        >Just start a Win32 project or a complete empty project in Visual C++?
        >>
        >MFC is just a framework you certainly do not have to use it. You could
        >also
        >use another framework for instance wxWidgets.
        >>
        >Regards, Ron AF Greve
        >>
        >http://www.InformationSuperHighway.eu
        >>
        >"zippo!" <uzi...@gmail.c omwrote in message
        >>
        >news:180daaf 4-19ea-4909-8f37-743f9546893b@k3 7g2000hsf.googl egroups.com...
        >>
        anyone say to me !!
        How To programmin with C++ For windows Without MFC!
        >>
        >>
        so , which better ? Win32 Or MFC?
        IMVHO, MFC == total CRAP.

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        • Ron AF Greve

          #5
          Re: C++ For Win Or Visual C++ ???

          Hi,


          I use MFC when I need a small dialog based app. For instance just to create
          a simple applciations with a list checkbox etc.

          When I am writing something large I'd rather do it from scratch. MFC
          functions do not always what you expect (for instance data exchange also
          creates the windows in controls) This sometimes takes quite some time to
          'debug'. Also you are forced into certain applications. Also when you add
          handlers yourself to the tables it is easy to screw up things and very hard
          to make the whole wizard system work again (I must say that I am still using
          Visual C++ 2003, so maybe things improved in 2008).

          Although wxWidgets seems to be based on how MFC work I found that actually
          easier to use.

          The only drawback is that with a Win32 project you have to write more code
          (but at least you know what is going on).

          Just my personal opinion.

          Regards, Ron AF Greve



          "zippo!" <uzippo@gmail.c omwrote in message
          news:9b607e63-ec41-493b-ae65-c98e904bb193@z7 2g2000hsb.googl egroups.com...
          On Jul 31, 3:46 pm, "Ron AF Greve" <ron@localhostw rote:
          Hi,
          >
          Just start a Win32 project or a complete empty project in Visual C++?
          >
          MFC is just a framework you certainly do not have to use it. You could
          also
          use another framework for instance wxWidgets.
          >
          Regards, Ron AF Greve
          >

          >
          "zippo!" <uzi...@gmail.c omwrote in message
          >
          news:180daaf4-19ea-4909-8f37-743f9546893b@k3 7g2000hsf.googl egroups.com...
          >
          anyone say to me !!
          How To programmin with C++ For windows Without MFC!
          >
          >
          so , which better ? Win32 Or MFC?


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          • =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_G=F3mez?=

            #6
            Re: C++ For Win Or Visual C++ ???

            zippo! wrote:
            On Jul 31, 3:46 pm, "Ron AF Greve" <ron@localhostw rote:
            >Hi,
            >>
            >Just start a Win32 project or a complete empty project in Visual C++?
            >>
            >MFC is just a framework you certainly do not have to use it. You could also
            >use another framework for instance wxWidgets.
            >>
            >>
            >>anyone say to me !!
            >>How To programmin with C++ For windows Without MFC!
            >>
            so , which better ? Win32 Or MFC?
            IMHO, the Windows Template Library. Currently, I'm using MFC 9 only
            because of the Feature Pack's cool new controls.

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            • zippo!

              #7
              Re: C++ For Win Or Visual C++ ???

              On Aug 1, 8:18 pm, Fernando Gómez <fernando.a.gom e...@gmail.com>
              wrote:
              zippo! wrote:
              On Jul 31, 3:46 pm, "Ron AF Greve" <ron@localhostw rote:
              Hi,
              >
              Just start a Win32 project or a complete empty project in Visual C++?
              >
              MFC is just a framework you certainly do not have to use it. You couldalso
              use another framework for instance wxWidgets.
              >
              >anyone say to me !!
              >How To programmin with C++ For windows Without MFC!
              >
              so , which better ? Win32 Or MFC?
              >
              IMHO, the Windows Template Library. Currently, I'm using MFC 9 only
              because of the Feature Pack's cool new controls.
              >
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              • Angus

                #8
                Re: C++ For Win Or Visual C++ ???

                If you are new to C++ you should ignore frameworks such as MFC and learn the
                basics first. Then as already suggested I would also recommend WTL.

                If you are asking for a free C++ programming book ... I am really
                questioning your commitment to what is a STEEP learning curve.


                "zippo!" <uzippo@gmail.c omwrote in message
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                On Aug 1, 8:18 pm, Fernando Gómez <fernando.a.gom e...@gmail.com>
                wrote:
                zippo! wrote:
                On Jul 31, 3:46 pm, "Ron AF Greve" <ron@localhostw rote:
                Hi,
                >
                Just start a Win32 project or a complete empty project in Visual C++?
                >
                MFC is just a framework you certainly do not have to use it. You could
                also
                use another framework for instance wxWidgets.
                >
                >anyone say to me !!
                >How To programmin with C++ For windows Without MFC!
                >
                so , which better ? Win32 Or MFC?
                >
                IMHO, the Windows Template Library. Currently, I'm using MFC 9 only
                because of the Feature Pack's cool new controls.
                >
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                Can you get me Free Win32 Programming PDF book ?!


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