Problem with hdparam

[Mark Berry]

Hi,

I'm trying to use the -k (or -K) switch to hdparam, which is meant to
keep settings after a restart.

But if I do
hdparam -k1 /dev/hda
and then reboot, calling
hdparam -k /dev/hda
to find the "keep settings" status shows that it's now turned itself off
again!

Can anyone explain what's going on?

Very many thanks in advance!

MJB

[Walter Roberson]

Re: Problem with hdparam

In article <ftloga$mmk$1@a ioe.org>, Mark Berry <nospam@nospam. comwrote:

>I'm trying to use the -k (or -K) switch to hdparam, which is meant to
>keep settings after a restart.

>But if I do
>hdparam -k1 /dev/hda
>and then reboot, calling
>hdparam -k /dev/hda
>to find the "keep settings" status shows that it's now turned itself off
>again!

>Can anyone explain what's going on?

Not a clue. Which section of the C which C standard describes
hdparam ?

When I check around, hdparam seems more likely to be a Linux
utility, not a C library call. If so and I haven't merely had
a major memory lapse about what is in the C library, you would
be better checking a forum devoted to your brand of Linux.
--
"After all, what problems has intellectualism ever solved?"
-- Robert Gilman

[Kenneth Brody]

Re: Problem with hdparam

Mark Berry wrote:

>
Hi,
>
I'm trying to use the -k (or -K) switch to hdparam, which is meant to
keep settings after a restart.
>
But if I do
hdparam -k1 /dev/hda
and then reboot, calling
hdparam -k /dev/hda
to find the "keep settings" status shows that it's now turned itself off
again!
>
Can anyone explain what's going on?

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[Antoninus Twink]

Re: Problem with hdparam

On 10 Apr 2008 at 19:06, Mark Berry wrote:

I'm trying to use the -k (or -K) switch to hdparam, which is meant to
keep settings after a restart.
>
But if I do
hdparam -k1 /dev/hda
and then reboot, calling
hdparam -k /dev/hda
to find the "keep settings" status shows that it's now turned itself off
again!
>
Can anyone explain what's going on?

First up, the program is called hdparm, not hdparam.

As to your problem, you're misunderstandin g what the -k and -K flags do:
they preserve certain settings (dmu options for -k, and APWSXZ options
for -K), but only across soft resets (e.g. if the IDE bus gets reset as
part of an error recovery sequence) - there's no reason to expect the
flags to preserve anything across a reboot.

[Mark Berry]

Re: Problem with hdparam

Aha, that explains it! It's slightly annoying, though...

Thanks to everyone who answered.


Antoninus Twink wrote:

On 10 Apr 2008 at 19:06, Mark Berry wrote:
>

>>I'm trying to use the -k (or -K) switch to hdparam, which is meant to
>>keep settings after a restart.
>>
>>But if I do
>>hdparam -k1 /dev/hda
>>and then reboot, calling
>>hdparam -k /dev/hda
>>to find the "keep settings" status shows that it's now turned itself off
>>again!
>>
>>Can anyone explain what's going on?

>
>
First up, the program is called hdparm, not hdparam.
>
As to your problem, you're misunderstandin g what the -k and -K flags do:
they preserve certain settings (dmu options for -k, and APWSXZ options
for -K), but only across soft resets (e.g. if the IDE bus gets reset as
part of an error recovery sequence) - there's no reason to expect the
flags to preserve anything across a reboot.
>

[Default User]

Re: Problem with hdparam - TPA

Mark Berry wrote:

Aha, that explains it! It's slightly annoying, though...

Please don't top-post. Your replies belong following or interspersed
with properly trimmed quotes. See the majority of other posts in the
newsgroup, or:
<http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html >

[Richard Tobin]

Re: Problem with hdparam - TPA

In article <667na1F2ivefgU 1@mid.individua l.net>,
Default User <defaultuserbr@ yahoo.comwrote:

>Please don't top-post. Your replies belong following or interspersed
>with properly trimmed quotes.

Though this is good practice during a conversation, I see no reason
to apply it rigidly when thanking someone for an explanation.

-- Richard
--
:wq

[Kenny McCormack]

Re: Problem with hdparam - TPA

In article <ftm9jh$22ob$1@ pc-news.cogsci.ed. ac.uk>,
Richard Tobin <richard@cogsci .ed.ac.ukwrote:

>In article <667na1F2ivefgU 1@mid.individua l.net>,
>Default User <defaultuserbr@ yahoo.comwrote:
>

>>Please don't top-post. Your replies belong following or interspersed
>>with properly trimmed quotes.

>
>Though this is good practice during a conversation, I see no reason
>to apply it rigidly when thanking someone for an explanation.

Um, Default Loser doesn't care about such sublties.
He just sees an opportunity to do one of his beloved TPAs, and boom!

[Richard]

Re: Problem with hdparam - TPA

"Default User" <defaultuserbr@ yahoo.comwrites :

Mark Berry wrote:
>

>Aha, that explains it! It's slightly annoying, though...

>
Please don't top-post. Your replies belong following or interspersed
with properly trimmed quotes. See the majority of other posts in the
newsgroup, or:
<http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html >

Oh, for goodness sake. It was a one liner thank you. Grow up.

[Noob]

Re: Problem with hdparam - TPA

Kenny McCormack wrote:

X doesn't care about such sublties.

ITYM subtilties or subtleties

[Kenny McCormack]

Re: Problem with hdparam - TPA

In article <47ff8732$0$120 81$426a74cc@new s.free.fr>,
Noob <root@localhost wrote:

>Kenny McCormack wrote:
>

>X doesn't care about such sublties.

>
>ITYM subtilties or subtleties

Probably so. But I definitely meant Default Loser, not X.

[Richard Harter]

Re: Problem with hdparam - TPA

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:34:39 +0000, Richard Heathfield
<rjh@see.sig.in validwrote:

>Default User said:
>

>Richard Harter wrote:
>>

>>On 11 Apr 2008 15:53:31 GMT, "Default User"
>><defaultuserb r@yahoo.comwrot e:

>>

>There's no reason for the person to quote the whole message to post
>a thanks. He could trim all but a small slice to establish
>identity, then correctly post under that.
>>>
>>He could have, but he chose not to, just as you could choose not
>>to be a bandwidth wasting public nuisance but instead choose to
>>be one.

>>
>You are entitled to your opinion. You could also have, long ago, put in
>a filter for the "-TPA" that I so thoughtfully add to the subject line.

As though I should know or care what -TPA might signify.

>>
>*plonk*

All things considered, in this case being plonked might be
considered to be an honor. In any case it's quite alright with
me. Quite as an aside, and without any application to the
current thread, many consider those who publicly announce that
they are plonking someone as being overly full of themselves, as
though their indignation was a matter of concern to the world.
No doubt it is no such thing, but rather merely a matter of lack
of self control and the inability to refrain from spewing
emotional reactions into the internet.

>
>Of course you're right that the top-poster shouldn't have done it - he
>should have snipped and context-posted. Nevertheless, killfiling
>reasonable people like Richard Harter rather than listening to what they
>have to say about the subject is not itself a reasonable act. Neither is
>it reasonable that a significant fraction of your contributions to this
>newsgroup seem to consist entirely of net-copping.
>
>I suggest that you look through your Sent directory at, say, the last 100
>articles you've posted to this group, and just work out what percentage of
>them contain actual technical content. You may be alarmed to discover just
>how low the number is, and just how high is your proportion of net-nit
>articles.
>
>If you are, as I continue to believe, a reasonable fellow, you might not
>follow the above advice but you'll at least stop to think about it.
>
>Alternativel y, you could always plonk me, too. There is no dishonour in
>sharing a killfile with Richard Harter.

I thank you for your kind words. To be fair, I dare say "default
user" doesn't recognize that people might perceive his
"correction s" as being an annoyance - in part because he
killfiles anyone who might suggest such a thing. Also, to be
fair, I hadn't rapped his knuckles before so I can't blame him
for being upset.

That said, I am quite done with the subject. Unlike some I was
not put on this Earth to admonish the usenet pecadillos of
others. If I do so from time to time, it is merely the
expression of exasperation. It is a fault; I own it. I know
quite well net nuisances will be what they will be and that
casting animadversions is a seed that will bear no fruit.

Also unlike some, I have no killfiles. If "default user" chooses
to apologize, I will cheerfully accept his apologies.


Richard Harter, cri@tiac.net
http://home.tiac.net/~cri, http://www.varinoma.com
Save the Earth now!!
It's the only planet with chocolate.

[Richard Heathfield]

Re: Problem with hdparam - TPA

Default User said:

<snip>

I don't see any more reason this time than the last that you
complained.

<shrug>

Then I came up with a way for you to not be bothered, which
I see you aren't even using.

Actually, I do have a filter set up for TPA. My filters are only on
*sometimes*, though - those who, like me, use KNode will perhaps
understand this better than others. KNode includes filtered articles in
its counts, so you don't *know* that you've read everything you want to
and not read everything you don't want to until you've turned off the
filter and eyeballed the scores of the remaining articles. Not ideal, but
there you are. Anyway, when I saw an article by Richard Harter in the
'unread' pile, naturally I wanted to read it - so I did.

>Alternativel y, you could always plonk me, too. There is no dishonour
>in sharing a killfile with Richard Harter.

>
Are you to going to rude and insulting, like him?

That sentence no verb. I don't agree that Richard Harter was either
particularly rude or particularly insulting (although tactful he was
*not*). I don't completely agree with his position on net-copping, but he
does have a point, and he was expressing that point. I think he was
uncharitable to say that you are a bandwidth-wasting public nuisance. But
had he said (what I suspect he actually meant) that a large proportion of
your articles are a bandwidth-wasting public nuisance, I'd have agreed.

If so, then you will plonked.

Why should I care about that? You hardly ever provide technical corrections
to my articles, so of what value is it to me that you read my articles?
Why, in fact, should your plonking me bother me in the slightest? Why, in
fact, should it bother *anyone*?

Okay, so you've been silly enough to plonk Richard Harter. I reckon that's
going to cost you more knowledge than it will cost him.

If not, I don't see why I would. I believe you are unfairly
maligning my reasons for plonking him.

And I believe you should not net-cop people unless you are, at the very
least, also in a position to provide them with good technical help.

--
Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk >
Email: -http://www. +rjh@
Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php>
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999

[Richard]

Re: Problem with hdparam - TPA

"Default User" <defaultuserbr@ yahoo.comwrites :

Richard Harter wrote:
>

>On 11 Apr 2008 15:53:31 GMT, "Default User"
><defaultuserbr @yahoo.comwrote :

>

There's no reason for the person to quote the whole message to post
a thanks. He could trim all but a small slice to establish
identity, then correctly post under that.

>>
>He could have, but he chose not to, just as you could choose not
>to be a bandwidth wasting public nuisance but instead choose to
>be one.

>
You are entitled to your opinion. You could also have, long ago, put in
a filter for the "-TPA" that I so thoughtfully add to the subject line.
>
*plonk*
>
>
>
Brian

TPA? LOL. Who do you think you are? Pedantic busy body.

[Richard]

Re: Problem with hdparam - TPA

Richard Heathfield <rjh@see.sig.in validwrites:

Default User said:
>

>Richard Harter wrote:
>>

>>On 11 Apr 2008 15:53:31 GMT, "Default User"
>><defaultuserb r@yahoo.comwrot e:

>>

>There's no reason for the person to quote the whole message to post
>a thanks. He could trim all but a small slice to establish
>identity, then correctly post under that.
>>>
>>He could have, but he chose not to, just as you could choose not
>>to be a bandwidth wasting public nuisance but instead choose to
>>be one.

>>
>You are entitled to your opinion. You could also have, long ago, put in
>a filter for the "-TPA" that I so thoughtfully add to the subject line.
>>
>*plonk*

>
Of course you're right that the top-poster shouldn't have done it - he
should have snipped and context-posted. Nevertheless, killfiling
reasonable people like Richard Harter rather than listening to what they
have to say about the subject is not itself a reasonable act. Neither is
it reasonable that a significant fraction of your contributions to this
newsgroup seem to consist entirely of net-copping.

Significant being a euphemism for at least 90% I hope.

All Brian does is post "me toos" and tell people off for posting
styles. Possibly more useless than Chuck. Twink and Kenny had his number
a long time ago.