opinion poll: who is better programmer navia or heathfield ?

[geese786@gmail.com]

my vote for navia.

[geese786@gmail.com]

Re: opinion poll: who is better programmer navia or heathfield ?

Power levels

Richard Heath Field (form 1) - 530,000

form 2 - 1,400,000

form 3 - 3,600,000

form 4 - 30,000,000 (100%)

form 4 + C99 chargeup = 80,000,000 (Very dangerous transformation, its
hard to fight him in this form)

form 4 + C99 Chargup + absorbing energy from all his fake profiles on
CLC - 120,000,000 (Near unbeatable)

Jacob Navia

base power - 600,000

lccoken X 20 = 12,000,000

Super Navia - 150,000,000 (This form was revealted when navia bcame
emotionally distressed after heathffields scathing attacks)

Santosh

base power - 28,000,000

Charged up - 60,000,000

Santosh angry - 136,000,000

Chuck falconer

base power - 200,000

full power - 3,000,000

chuck falconer (final shine) - 44,000,000

Richard Bos

power level 5000

Transformed - 50,000

Enraged - 5,000,000

[Mark McIntyre]

Re: opinion poll: who is better programmer navia or heathfield ?

Its a foolish question because only one of them actually /is/ a
programmer. The other is a troll.

[Kenny McCormack]

Re: opinion poll: who is better programmer navia or heathfield ?

In article <_uVIj.17720$fc 1.14791@en-nntp-09.am2.easynews .com>,
Mark McIntyre <markmcintyre@s pamcop.netwrote :

>Its a foolish question because only one of them actually /is/ a
>programmer. The other is a troll.

Agreed. But I'll bet we disagree as to who is who.

[Dann Corbit]

Re: opinion poll: who is better programmer navia or heathfield ?

"Mark McIntyre" <markmcintyre@s pamcop.netwrote in message
news:_uVIj.1772 0$fc1.14791@en-nntp-09.am2.easynews .com...

Its a foolish question because only one of them actually /is/ a
programmer. The other is a troll.

I guess that both of them are good programmers. But trying to decide who is
a better programmer by using a poll is like voting on the value of pi.

Jacob Navia can be combative, but so can Richard Heathfield.

I think that both of them like to argue, and Richard is just better at it
and so he tends to win the arguments (though Jacob is amazingly adept at not
recognizing his losses).

Jacob likes to go off topic, but his tangents are usually not that bad and I
tend to read his messages rather than killfile him because he has
interesting things to say from time to time.

Richard Heathfield understands the C standard a lot better than Jacob does,
but that does not mean Jacob is a bad programmer.

I'm also starting to change my mind about the Twink fellow, who I originally
thought was a pure troll. I have seen a couple of posts by him that looked
like genuine attempts to be helpful.

However, the unadorned 'Kenny' and 'Richard' are pure trolls with nothing
whatsoever to contribute.

Probably, the originator of this thread is a clone of one of them.

IMO-YMMV



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[Richard Heathfield]

Re: opinion poll: who is better programmer navia or heathfield ?

Joachim Schmitz said:

Antoninus Twink wrote:

>even the fun of satirizing [the regular contributors] is reduced
>when they do such a good job of satirizing themselves - witness
>CBF's post in the current "-atof- function..." thread where he
>makes code "much clearer" by removing all the vertical space.

This wasn't CBF, but RH

Whoosh! The point of my reply (which was, in fact, to an article in which
Chuck *did* show how to remove a lot of vertical space) appears to have
escaped you entirely.

>So I've come to the conclusion that the most subversive and radical
>thing of all will be...just to post good technical advice!

Yes, this recent change of your behavoir has been noticed and honoured by
several people meanwhile.

Time will tell, of course - but if Mr Twink /has/ genuinely changed his
behaviour, that's good news for the group, and means that my campaign to
urge trolls to change the group for the better by positive means, rather
than negative, has begun to bear fruit. Let Kenny McCormack and Richard
Riley take note.

--
Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk >
Email: -http://www. +rjh@
Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php>
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999

[Kenny McCormack]

Re: opinion poll: who is better programmer navia or heathfield ?

In article <BdednQI9V-ym-mranZ2dnUVZ8tmh nZ2d@bt.com>,
Richard Heathfield <rjh@see.sig.in validwrote:
....

>Time will tell, of course - but if Mr Twink /has/ genuinely changed his
>behaviour, that's good news for the group, and means that my campaign to
>urge trolls to change the group for the better by positive means, rather
>than negative, has begun to bear fruit. Let Kenny McCormack and Richard
>Riley take note.

I believe the expression is: Whoosh!

[Joachim Schmitz]

Re: opinion poll: who is better programmer navia or heathfield ?

Richard Heathfield wrote:

Joachim Schmitz said:
>

>Antoninus Twink wrote:

>>even the fun of satirizing [the regular contributors] is reduced
>>when they do such a good job of satirizing themselves - witness
>>CBF's post in the current "-atof- function..." thread where he
>>makes code "much clearer" by removing all the vertical space.

>This wasn't CBF, but RH

>
Whoosh! The point of my reply (which was, in fact, to an article in
which Chuck *did* show how to remove a lot of vertical space) appears
to have escaped you entirely.

Well, I did understand that this was mean to be funny/ironical.
Or was there more to it? If so that indeed escaped me...

Bye, Jojo

[Keith Thompson]

Re: opinion poll: who is better programmer navia or heathfield ?

Richard Heathfield <rjh@see.sig.in validwrites:

Joachim Schmitz said:
>

>Antoninus Twink wrote:

[the usual, followed by]

>>So I've come to the conclusion that the most subversive and radical
>>thing of all will be...just to post good technical advice!

>Yes, this recent change of your behavoir has been noticed and honoured by
>several people meanwhile.

>
Time will tell, of course - but if Mr Twink /has/ genuinely changed his
behaviour, that's good news for the group, and means that my campaign to
urge trolls to change the group for the better by positive means, rather
than negative, has begun to bear fruit. Let Kenny McCormack and Richard
Riley take note.

AT has been posting a few articles with technical content, but I don't
believe I've yet seen him post anything that wouldn't be more
appropriate in a different newsgroup. And even if he suddenly started
posting good topical material, I wouldn't personally be inclined to
forgive or forget his past abuses.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keit h) <kst-u@mib.org>
Nokia
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

[Kenny McCormack]

Re: opinion poll: who is better programmer navia or heathfield ?

In article <87ej9kxh5d.fsf @kvetch.smov.or g>,
Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.orgwrote:
....

>AT has been posting a few articles with technical content, but I don't
>believe I've yet seen him post anything that wouldn't be more
>appropriate in a different newsgroup. And even if he suddenly started
>posting good topical material, I wouldn't personally be inclined to
>forgive or forget his past abuses.

Pompous bag of air.

You are not the baby Jesus.

[Richard Heathfield]

Re: opinion poll: who is better programmer navia or heathfield ?

Keith Thompson said:

<snip>

AT has been posting a few articles with technical content, but I don't
believe I've yet seen him post anything that wouldn't be more
appropriate in a different newsgroup. And even if he suddenly started
posting good topical material, I wouldn't personally be inclined to
forgive or forget his past abuses.

Forget? No. But the problem with a policy of non-forgiveness is that it is
a downward spiral into bitterness all round. If you won't let a guy off
the hook, you're still hooked to him, and that damages *you*, not him.

--
Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk >
Email: -http://www. +rjh@
Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php>
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999

[Kenny McCormack]

Re: opinion poll: who is better programmer navia or heathfield ?

In article <KO6dnavNPOCEQ2 ranZ2dneKdnZydn Z2d@bt.com>,
Richard Heathfield <rjh@see.sig.in validwrote:

>Keith Thompson said:
>
><snip>
>

>AT has been posting a few articles with technical content, but I don't
>believe I've yet seen him post anything that wouldn't be more
>appropriate in a different newsgroup. And even if he suddenly started
>posting good topical material, I wouldn't personally be inclined to
>forgive or forget his past abuses.

>
>Forget? No. But the problem with a policy of non-forgiveness is that it is
>a downward spiral into bitterness all round. If you won't let a guy off
>the hook, you're still hooked to him, and that damages *you*, not him.

<Rolls eyes towards heaven...>

[Chad]

Re: opinion poll: who is better programmer navia or heathfield ?

On Apr 2, 5:42 am, geese...@gmail. com wrote:

Power levels
>
Richard Heath Field (form 1) - 530,000
>
form 2 - 1,400,000
>
form 3 - 3,600,000
>
form 4 - 30,000,000 (100%)
>
form 4 + C99 chargeup = 80,000,000 (Very dangerous transformation, its
hard to fight him in this form)
>
form 4 + C99 Chargup + absorbing energy from all his fake profiles on
CLC - 120,000,000 (Near unbeatable)
>
Jacob Navia
>
base power - 600,000
>
lccoken X 20 = 12,000,000
>
Super Navia - 150,000,000 (This form was revealted when navia bcame
emotionally distressed after heathffields scathing attacks)
>
Santosh
>
base power - 28,000,000
>
Charged up - 60,000,000
>
Santosh angry - 136,000,000
>
Chuck falconer
>
base power - 200,000
>
full power - 3,000,000
>
chuck falconer (final shine) - 44,000,000
>
Richard Bos
>
power level 5000
>
Transformed - 50,000
>
Enraged - 5,000,000

I think this has to qualify as the dumbest thread of the year.

[spinoza1111]

Re: opinion poll: who is better programmer navia or heathfield ?

On Apr 5, 7:53 pm, Richard Heathfield <r...@see.sig.i nvalidwrote:

Joachim Schmitz said:
>

Antoninus Twink wrote:

even the fun of satirizing [the regular contributors] is reduced
when they do such a good job of satirizing themselves - witness
CBF's post in the current "-atof- function..." thread where he
makes code "much clearer" by removing all the vertical space.

This wasn't CBF, but RH

>
Whoosh! The point of my reply (which was, in fact, to an article in which
Chuck *did* show how to remove a lot of vertical space) appears to have
escaped you entirely.
>

So I've come to the conclusion that the most subversive and radical
thing of all will be...just to post good technical advice!

Yes, this recent change of your behavoir has been noticed and honoured by
several people meanwhile.

>
Time will tell, of course - but if Mr Twink /has/ genuinely changed his
behaviour, that's good news for the group, and means that my campaign to
urge trolls to change the group for the better by positive means, rather
than negative, has begun to bear fruit. Let Kenny McCormack and Richard
Riley take note.
>
--
Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk >
Email: -http://www. +rjh@
Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php>
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999

Richard, how do you have any time to program? I mean, you're always
here!

When I program, I have to leave off posting. That's because I write
documentation before code and this is time-consuming.

Anyway, I better desist. It has been most illuminating to learn that
you have hounded and harassed two other people (Schildt and Navia)
that actually sat down and wrote compilers, as I have. Do I sense
resentment? Do I detect a pattern? Do I smell a rat? Nawwww...

I gotta get back to spinoza as well as preparing my classes. This is
called "a life". Get one.

[Clever Monkey]

Re: opinion poll: who is better programmer navia or heathfield ?

spinoza1111 wrote:

On Apr 5, 7:53 pm, Richard Heathfield <r...@see.sig.i nvalidwrote:

>Joachim Schmitz said:
>>

>>Antoninus Twink wrote:
>>>even the fun of satirizing [the regular contributors] is reduced
>>>when they do such a good job of satirizing themselves - witness
>>>CBF's post in the current "-atof- function..." thread where he
>>>makes code "much clearer" by removing all the vertical space.
>>This wasn't CBF, but RH

>Whoosh! The point of my reply (which was, in fact, to an article in which
>Chuck *did* show how to remove a lot of vertical space) appears to have
>escaped you entirely.
>>

>>>So I've come to the conclusion that the most subversive and radical
>>>thing of all will be...just to post good technical advice!
>>Yes, this recent change of your behavoir has been noticed and honoured by
>>several people meanwhile.

>Time will tell, of course - but if Mr Twink /has/ genuinely changed his
>behaviour, that's good news for the group, and means that my campaign to
>urge trolls to change the group for the better by positive means, rather
>than negative, has begun to bear fruit. Let Kenny McCormack and Richard
>Riley take note.
>>

>
Richard, how do you have any time to program? I mean, you're always
here!
>
When I program, I have to leave off posting. That's because I write
documentation before code and this is time-consuming.
>
Anyway, I better desist. It has been most illuminating to learn that
you have hounded and harassed two other people (Schildt and Navia)
that actually sat down and wrote compilers, as I have. Do I sense
resentment? Do I detect a pattern? Do I smell a rat? Nawwww...
>

Yay. Another compiler. Just what we need.
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