Some simple questions

[Ioannis Vranos]

1. 1U means that 1 is an unsigned int and not another unsigned type?

2. '\012' and '\xb' values are the same with 012 and 0xb?

3. Any numbers appearing like the following:

'\546'

are considered octals or decimals?

[Juha Nieminen]

Re: Some simple questions

Ioannis Vranos wrote:

1. 1U means that 1 is an unsigned int and not another unsigned type?

Unsigned int.

2. '\012' and '\xb' values are the same with 012 and 0xb?

No. The former are of type char, while the latter are of type int.

3. Any numbers appearing like the following:
>
'\546'
>
are considered octals or decimals?

I don't remember. Try google.

[Ioannis Vranos]

Re: Some simple questions

Juha Nieminen wrote:

Ioannis Vranos wrote:

>1. 1U means that 1 is an unsigned int and not another unsigned type?

>
Unsigned int.

Is there any specifier of unsigned short?

>

>2. '\012' and '\xb' values are the same with 012 and 0xb?

>
No. The former are of type char, while the latter are of type int.

OK, apart from the type, are these the same values?

>

>3. Any numbers appearing like the following:
>>
>'\546'
>>
>are considered octals or decimals?

>
I don't remember. Try google.

If anyone has a specific answer it will be better. As for trying, a
compiler is better than google for this case I guess. :-)

[Ioannis Vranos]

Re: Some simple questions

Ioannis Vranos wrote:

Juha Nieminen wrote:

>Ioannis Vranos wrote:

>>1. 1U means that 1 is an unsigned int and not another unsigned type?

>>
> Unsigned int.

>
Is there any specifier of unsigned short?
>
>

>>

>>2. '\012' and '\xb' values are the same with 012 and 0xb?

>>
> No. The former are of type char, while the latter are of type int.

>
>
OK, apart from the type, are these the same values?
>
>

>>

>>3. Any numbers appearing like the following:
>>>
>>'\546'
>>>
>>are considered octals or decimals?

>>
> I don't remember. Try google.

>
If anyone has a specific answer it will be better. As for trying, a
compiler is better than google for this case I guess. :-)

The code:

#include <iostream>


int main()
{
using namespace std;

int x= '\146';


cout<< x<< "\n"<< oct<< x<< "\n"<< hex<< x<< endl;
}


produces in my system:


[john@localhost src]$ ./foobar-cpp
102
146
66
[john@localhost src]$


Can't reach a conclusion.

[Ioannis Vranos]

Re: Some simple questions

Ioannis Vranos wrote:

Ioannis Vranos wrote:

>Juha Nieminen wrote:

>>Ioannis Vranos wrote:
>>>1. 1U means that 1 is an unsigned int and not another unsigned type?
>>>
>> Unsigned int.

>>
>Is there any specifier of unsigned short?
>>
>>

>>>
>>>2. '\012' and '\xb' values are the same with 012 and 0xb?
>>>
>> No. The former are of type char, while the latter are of type int.

>>
>>
>OK, apart from the type, are these the same values?
>>
>>

>>>
>>>3. Any numbers appearing like the following:
>>>>
>>>'\546'
>>>>
>>>are considered octals or decimals?
>>>
>> I don't remember. Try google.

>>
>If anyone has a specific answer it will be better. As for trying, a
>compiler is better than google for this case I guess. :-)

>
>
The code:
>
#include <iostream>
>
>
int main()
{
using namespace std;
>
int x= '\146';
>
>
cout<< x<< "\n"<< oct<< x<< "\n"<< hex<< x<< endl;
}
>
>
produces in my system:
>
>
[john@localhost src]$ ./foobar-cpp
102
146
66
[john@localhost src]$
>
>
Can't reach a conclusion.

Ehm, actually it looks like it is octal.

[James Kanze]

Re: Some simple questions

On Feb 29, 6:24 pm, Ioannis Vranos <ivra...@nospam .no.spamfreemai l.gr>
wrote:

1. 1U means that 1 is an unsigned int and not another unsigned type?

Yes, but only because 1 is guaranteed to fit in an int. If
integer literal which is suffixed by u or U, "its type is the
first of these types in which its value can be represented:
unsigned int, unsigned long int." C++0x will add long long, and
provisions for extended integral types (but U or u will always
guarantee an unsigned type, I think).

2. '\012' and '\xb' values are the same with 012 and 0xb?

No. The first two have type char, the last two type int. (They
have the same numeric value of course, but I'm sure you knew
that.)

3. Any numbers appearing like the following:

'\546'

are considered octals or decimals?

Octals. Character escape sequences only exist for octal and
hexadecimal, not for decimal. (Similarly, the length and
precision fields in a printf format specifier are always
decimal, regardless of the format; e.g. "%.017f" and "%.17f"
specify exactly the same format, and in "%010d", the initial 0
is a flag, saying to use 0 as a fill character, and not space,
and does not mean that the width is octal.)

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[James Kanze]

Re: Some simple questions

On Feb 29, 7:45 pm, Ioannis Vranos <ivra...@nospam .no.spamfreemai l.gr>
wrote:

Juha Nieminen wrote:

Ioannis Vranos wrote:

1. 1U means that 1 is an unsigned int and not another unsigned type?

Unsigned int.

Is there any specifier of unsigned short?

No. Integral promotion means that shorts and unsigned shorts
don't usually occur in expressions.

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[Ioannis Vranos]

Re: Some simple questions

James Kanze wrote:

On Feb 29, 6:24 pm, Ioannis Vranos <ivra...@nospam .no.spamfreemai l.gr>
wrote:

>1. 1U means that 1 is an unsigned int and not another unsigned type?

>
Yes, but only because 1 is guaranteed to fit in an int. If
integer literal which is suffixed by u or U, "its type is the
first of these types in which its value can be represented:
unsigned int, unsigned long int."

Thanks for the info.

C++0x will add long long, and
provisions for extended integral types (but U or u will always
guarantee an unsigned type, I think).

I will bother for C++0x when it is ratified and is widely implemented,
that is about 4 years after it is finished at least. :-)

>2. '\012' and '\xb' values are the same with 012 and 0xb?

>
No. The first two have type char, the last two type int. (They
have the same numeric value of course, but I'm sure you knew
that.)

Actually I knew the first but was not sure for the second. :-)

>3. Any numbers appearing like the following:

>

>'\546'

>

>are considered octals or decimals?

>
Octals. Character escape sequences only exist for octal and
hexadecimal, not for decimal.

I suppose you mean numeric escape sequences, and not talking about '\n',
'\t' etc.

[James Kanze]

Re: Some simple questions

On Feb 29, 9:10 pm, Ioannis Vranos <ivra...@nospam .no.spamfreemai l.gr>
wrote:

James Kanze wrote:

[...]

C++0x will add long long, and
provisions for extended integral types (but U or u will always
guarantee an unsigned type, I think).

I will bother for C++0x when it is ratified and is widely
implemented, that is about 4 years after it is finished at
least. :-)

Were it only so. In practice, some features are already widely
implemented (such as long long), others probably never will be
(how many compilers support export, from C++98).

[...]

3. Any numbers appearing like the following:

'\546'

are considered octals or decimals?

>

Octals. Character escape sequences only exist for octal and
hexadecimal, not for decimal.

I suppose you mean numeric escape sequences, and not talking
about '\n', '\t' etc.

Yes. Things like '\t' are neither octal nor decimal, of course.

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[Micah Cowan]

Re: Some simple questions

Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks. invalidwrites:

Ioannis Vranos wrote:

>1. 1U means that 1 is an unsigned int and not another unsigned type?

>
Unsigned int.
>

>2. '\012' and '\xb' values are the same with 012 and 0xb?

>
No. The former are of type char, while the latter are of type int.

(Note that this differs from C, where all of the above are of type
int.)

--
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[Juha Nieminen]

Re: Some simple questions

Micah Cowan wrote:

Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks. invalidwrites:
>

>Ioannis Vranos wrote:

>>1. 1U means that 1 is an unsigned int and not another unsigned type?

> Unsigned int.
>>

>>2. '\012' and '\xb' values are the same with 012 and 0xb?

> No. The former are of type char, while the latter are of type int.

>
(Note that this differs from C, where all of the above are of type
int.)

Even 1U is of type int?

[Victor Bazarov]

Re: Some simple questions

Juha Nieminen wrote:

Micah Cowan wrote:

>Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks. invalidwrites:
>>

>>Ioannis Vranos wrote:
>>>1. 1U means that 1 is an unsigned int and not another unsigned
>>>type?
>> Unsigned int.
>>>
>>>2. '\012' and '\xb' values are the same with 012 and 0xb?
>> No. The former are of type char, while the latter are of type int.

>>
>(Note that this differs from C, where all of the above are of type
>int.)

>
Even 1U is of type int?

No, Micah meant all literals in '2' are of type 'int' in C. There
are no literals of type 'char' in C.

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[Juha Nieminen]

Re: Some simple questions

Victor Bazarov wrote:

Juha Nieminen wrote:

>Micah Cowan wrote:

>>Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks. invalidwrites:
>>>
>>>Ioannis Vranos wrote:
>>>>1. 1U means that 1 is an unsigned int and not another unsigned
>>>>type?
>>> Unsigned int.
>>>>
>>>>2. '\012' and '\xb' values are the same with 012 and 0xb?
>>> No. The former are of type char, while the latter are of type int.
>>(Note that this differs from C, where all of the above are of type
>>int.)

> Even 1U is of type int?

>
No, Micah meant all literals in '2' are of type 'int' in C. There
are no literals of type 'char' in C.

My answer was a rather subtle hint which tried to say "please quote
only the relevant parts of what you are answering to, to avoid confusion".

[Victor Bazarov]

Re: Some simple questions

Juha Nieminen wrote:

Victor Bazarov wrote:

>Juha Nieminen wrote:

>>Micah Cowan wrote:
>>>Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks. invalidwrites:
>>>>
>>>>Ioannis Vranos wrote:
>>>>>1. 1U means that 1 is an unsigned int and not another unsigned
>>>>>type?
>>>> Unsigned int.
>>>>>
>>>>>2. '\012' and '\xb' values are the same with 012 and 0xb?
>>>> No. The former are of type char, while the latter are of type
>>>>int.
>>>(Note that this differs from C, where all of the above are of type
>>>int.)
>> Even 1U is of type int?

>>
>No, Micah meant all literals in '2' are of type 'int' in C. There
>are no literals of type 'char' in C.

>
My answer was a rather subtle hint which tried to say "please quote
only the relevant parts of what you are answering to, to avoid
confusion".

'Twas too subtle for me, obviously.

V
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