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  • james

    Re: .NET apps not being recognized as being in the Intranet Zone

    WATYF <WATYF1@gmail.c omwrote in
    news:eb43eb6a-afaa-4e39-ac0b-850afdb6d1e4@r6 6g2000hsg.googl egroups.com:
    On May 18, 2:20 pm, james <men...@arisia. invalid.orgwrot e:
    >WATYF <WAT...@gmail.c omwrote
    >innews:b49180b 8-f865-4aae-aa4c-6896e6d9f3c8@l6 4g2000hse.googl egroups.c
    >om:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    So I had a problem recently... my .NET apps would no longer run
    from a particular share, nor could I open them in VS.NET. See:
    [snip]
    So I went into Internet Explorer's "zone" area and added the domain
    that the network share is on to the "Intranet Sites" list.
    >>
    But the problem still remains the same. I've got a network share
    [snip]
    >IIRC, you need to be using caspol.exe rather than the zones set with
    >Internet Explorer. That's what I had to do in my very similar case,
    >anyway.
    >>
    >Good luck!
    >>
    >--
    >The email address, above, is most certainly munged. Perhaps you
    >might reply to the newsgroup, instead? Thanks!
    >
    >
    How would I use caspol to do this? I tried running it from command
    line, but I got an "access denied" message.
    >
    >
    Basically, I just need to tell ".NET" that any assembly that exists on
    the drive mapped like so: ( share on 'sub.corpdomain .org\shares' )
    belongs to the IntRAnet zone, not the IntERnet zone. How do I do
    this??
    >
    >
    WATYF
    >
    It gets complicated. First, a reference:


    You might also try a:
    <dotnetframewor kpath\caspol.ex e -list | more
    to see what _they_ mean by the groups (some of which share names with
    more familiar IE groups).

    So, my .Net 2.0 program, to get to run from a network share, required
    several things. First, the person setting up for remote access was a
    local admin on the box. Power User might work, I'm not sure. The user
    has to be able to modify local security policies, though, because that's
    what caspol does. Second, they required caspol.exe, which is usually in
    c:\windows\micr osoft.net\frame work\v<version> \CasPol.exe. Note that if
    side-by-side versions of .Net are installed then you must use the one
    that corresponds with the version of .Net framework your program uses.

    Then I wrote this command file:
    @echo off
    echo y|c:\windows\mi crosoft.net\fra meowrk\v2.0.507 27\caspol.exe -m -ag
    1.2 -url file://server/sharename/path/to/my/program/* FullTrust
    exit

    That echo y| thing is all one easy-to-read line. -ag 1.2 is AddGroup for
    the Zone - Intranet: LocalIntranet, which is how intranet shares are
    classified. The 1.2 is easily found in the first few lines of caspol -
    list | more.

    Google is your friend. Also, I should have named my entry because I seem
    to be getting multiple entries, one per program update. Also, every user
    must rerun the caspol command file each time your program version is
    updated because that's part of the security (note that the * in my
    example allows _all_ code from that location to be run, not necessarily
    very secure).

    I found my example using google, hopefully this is enough to get you
    going.

    --
    The email address, above, is most certainly munged. Perhaps you
    might reply to the newsgroup, instead? Thanks!
  • WATYF

    #2
    Re: .NET apps not being recognized as being in the Intranet Zone

    On May 21, 1:18 am, james <men...@arisia. invalid.orgwrot e:
    WATYF <WAT...@gmail.c omwrote innews:eb43eb6a-afaa-4e39-ac0b-850afdb6d1e4@r6 6g2000hsg.googl egroups.com:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    On May 18, 2:20 pm, james <men...@arisia. invalid.orgwrot e:
    WATYF <WAT...@gmail.c omwrote
    innews:b49180b8-f865-4aae-aa4c-6896e6d9f3c8@l6 4g2000hse.googl egroups.c
    om:
    >
    So I had a problem recently... my .NET apps would no longer run
    from a particular share, nor could I open them in VS.NET. See:
    [snip]
    So I went into Internet Explorer's "zone" area and added the domain
    that the network share is on to the "Intranet Sites" list.
    >
    But the problem still remains the same. I've got a network share
    [snip]
    IIRC, you need to be using caspol.exe rather than the zones set with
    Internet Explorer. That's what I had to do in my very similar case,
    anyway.
    >
    Good luck!
    >
    --
    The email address, above, is most certainly munged. Perhaps you
    might reply to the newsgroup, instead? Thanks!
    >
    How would I use caspol to do this? I tried running it from command
    line, but I got an "access denied" message.
    >
    Basically, I just need to tell ".NET" that any assembly that exists on
    the drive mapped like so: ( share on 'sub.corpdomain .org\shares' )
    belongs to the IntRAnet zone, not the IntERnet zone. How do I do
    this??
    >
    WATYF
    >
    It gets complicated. First, a reference:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...tz(VS.80).aspx
    >
    You might also try a:
    <dotnetframewor kpath\caspol.ex e -list | more
    to see what _they_ mean by the groups (some of which share names with
    more familiar IE groups).
    >
    So, my .Net 2.0 program, to get to run from a network share, required
    several things. First, the person setting up for remote access was a
    local admin on the box. Power User might work, I'm not sure. The user
    has to be able to modify local security policies, though, because that's
    what caspol does. Second, they required caspol.exe, which is usually in
    c:\windows\micr osoft.net\frame work\v<version> \CasPol.exe. Note that if
    side-by-side versions of .Net are installed then you must use the one
    that corresponds with the version of .Net framework your program uses.
    >
    Then I wrote this command file:
    @echo off
    echo y|c:\windows\mi crosoft.net\fra meowrk\v2.0.507 27\caspol.exe -m -ag
    1.2 -url file://server/sharename/path/to/my/program/* FullTrust
    exit
    >
    That echo y| thing is all one easy-to-read line. -ag 1.2 is AddGroup for
    the Zone - Intranet: LocalIntranet, which is how intranet shares are
    classified. The 1.2 is easily found in the first few lines of caspol -
    list | more.
    >
    Google is your friend. Also, I should have named my entry because I seem
    to be getting multiple entries, one per program update. Also, every user
    must rerun the caspol command file each time your program version is
    updated because that's part of the security (note that the * in my
    example allows _all_ code from that location to be run, not necessarily
    very secure).
    >
    I found my example using google, hopefully this is enough to get you
    going.
    >
    --
    The email address, above, is most certainly munged. Perhaps you
    might reply to the newsgroup, instead? Thanks!

    Hi there. I appreciate the response. I have, of course, been using
    Google to find the answer to this, but it hasn't returned any useful
    results as yet. And while your example seemed very promising at first,
    unfortunately it doesn't solve my problem.

    What you're doing is making a share trusted... which I had already
    done, and which was already working well for quite some time. The
    issue arose when my IT dept decided to change the way the share is
    mapped. It is no longer mapped using the UNC path (\\server\share
    \subfolder\). It is now mapped using a domain (sub.corpdomain .org\share
    \subfolder). It is this method of mapping that causes the problem,
    because, apparently, it doesn't see that share as a network share, but
    rather as an internet URL (which is why it puts it in the Internet
    zone).

    My problem lies with telling .NET that all apps at that URL are
    trusted.

    WATYF

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    • WATYF

      #3
      Re: .NET apps not being recognized as being in the Intranet Zone

      On May 29, 10:15 am, WATYF <WAT...@gmail.c omwrote:
      On May 21, 1:18 am, james <men...@arisia. invalid.orgwrot e:
      >
      >
      >
      WATYF <WAT...@gmail.c omwrote innews:eb43eb6a-afaa-4e39-ac0b-850afdb6d1e4@r6 6g2000hsg.googl egroups.com:
      >
      On May 18, 2:20 pm, james <men...@arisia. invalid.orgwrot e:
      >WATYF <WAT...@gmail.c omwrote
      >innews:b49180b 8-f865-4aae-aa4c-6896e6d9f3c8@l6 4g2000hse.googl egroups.c
      >om:
      >
      So I had a problem recently... my .NET apps would no longer run
      from a particular share, nor could I open them in VS.NET. See:
      [snip]
      So I went into Internet Explorer's "zone" area and added the domain
      that the network share is on to the "Intranet Sites" list.
      >
      But the problem still remains the same. I've got a network share
      [snip]
      >IIRC, you need to be using caspol.exe rather than the zones set with
      >Internet Explorer. That's what I had to do in my very similar case,
      >anyway.
      >
      >Good luck!
      >
      >--
      >The email address, above, is most certainly munged. Perhaps you
      >might reply to the newsgroup, instead? Thanks!
      >
      How would I use caspol to do this? I tried running it from command
      line, but I got an "access denied" message.
      >
      Basically, I just need to tell ".NET" that any assembly that exists on
      the drive mapped like so: ( share on 'sub.corpdomain .org\shares' )
      belongs to the IntRAnet zone, not the IntERnet zone. How do I do
      this??
      >
      WATYF
      >
      It gets complicated. First, a reference:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...tz(VS.80).aspx
      >
      You might also try a:
      <dotnetframewor kpath\caspol.ex e -list | more
      to see what _they_ mean by the groups (some of which share names with
      more familiar IE groups).
      >
      So, my .Net 2.0 program, to get to run from a network share, required
      several things. First, the person setting up for remote access was a
      local admin on the box. Power User might work, I'm not sure. The user
      has to be able to modify local security policies, though, because that's
      what caspol does. Second, they required caspol.exe, which is usually in
      c:\windows\micr osoft.net\frame work\v<version> \CasPol.exe. Note that if
      side-by-side versions of .Net are installed then you must use the one
      that corresponds with the version of .Net framework your program uses.
      >
      Then I wrote this command file:
      @echo off
      echo y|c:\windows\mi crosoft.net\fra meowrk\v2.0.507 27\caspol.exe -m -ag
      1.2 -url file://server/sharename/path/to/my/program/* FullTrust
      exit
      >
      That echo y| thing is all one easy-to-read line. -ag 1.2 is AddGroup for
      the Zone - Intranet: LocalIntranet, which is how intranet shares are
      classified. The 1.2 is easily found in the first few lines of caspol -
      list | more.
      >
      Google is your friend. Also, I should have named my entry because I seem
      to be getting multiple entries, one per program update. Also, every user
      must rerun the caspol command file each time your program version is
      updated because that's part of the security (note that the * in my
      example allows _all_ code from that location to be run, not necessarily
      very secure).
      >
      I found my example using google, hopefully this is enough to get you
      going.
      >
      --
      The email address, above, is most certainly munged. Perhaps you
      might reply to the newsgroup, instead? Thanks!
      >
      Hi there. I appreciate the response. I have, of course, been using
      Google to find the answer to this, but it hasn't returned any useful
      results as yet. And while your example seemed very promising at first,
      unfortunately it doesn't solve my problem.
      >
      What you're doing is making a share trusted... which I had already
      done, and which was already working well for quite some time. The
      issue arose when my IT dept decided to change the way the share is
      mapped. It is no longer mapped using the UNC path (\\server\share
      \subfolder\). It is now mapped using a domain (sub.corpdomain .org\share
      \subfolder). It is this method of mapping that causes the problem,
      because, apparently, it doesn't see that share as a network share, but
      rather as an internet URL (which is why it puts it in the Internet
      zone).
      >
      My problem lies with telling .NET that all apps at that URL are
      trusted.
      >
      WATYF

      Well... I mostly found a solution for this.

      I tried a million different ways from Sunday to add the domain
      (sub.corpdomain .org) as a trusted URL (I used -url, I used -site, with
      wildcards, without wildcards, I added the group at the All Code level,
      at the Intranet level, at the Internet level, etc) but nothing
      worked... so I decided to try the actual drive letter (since this
      particular share is always mapped to the same letter)... and lo and
      behold... it worked.

      So here's what the syntax for caspol would be:

      caspol -m -url file:\\Z:/* FullTrust

      (where "Z" is the drive letter).

      You can do this in the .NET 2.0 configuration tool as well (go to
      Runtime Security Policy Machine Code Groups All_Code and add a
      new group for URL using that same url (file:\\Z:/*).

      Note that I didn't add it at the Intranet level...that's because this
      share wasn't showing up in the Intranet level (since that's the source
      of my problem in the first place). You could also add this group to
      the Internet zone, but I want this to affect all code, even stuff that
      somehow falls under another zone (since it used to run as Intranet and
      now runs as Internet, I don't want to have to worry about it switching
      back and breaking this configuration).


      WATYF

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      • WATYF

        #4
        Re: .NET apps not being recognized as being in the Intranet Zone

        Crap... I switched up the slashes... the URL would be:

        file://Z:\*

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