Fast way to determine if a string contains a member of a list of strings

[Karch]

I need to find the fastest way in terms of storage and searching to
determine if a given string contains one of a member of a list of strings.
So, think of it in terms of this: I have a string such as the following:

"Smith said the dog belongs (or did belong) to the secretary, an employee of
the company."

Then the list contains the following (and this list is MUCH larger in the
real situation):

Adams
Alan
Jones
Jacobs
Smith
Thaxton
Vela
Zulu

I would need to stop the processing and return (true) as soon as Smith was
found. On the other hand, if the string was changed to the following, there
would be no match and I would return (false):

"Smitherson said the dog belongs (or did belong) to the secretary, an
employee of the company."

In the given string, do know that the matches should begin at a given point
(zero position), but I need to keep processing until I have exhausted the
candidate string in the list - as shown above - to prevent a false match.

I have played around with some different data structures, such as prefix and
suffix trees, an these work in the case that you have a string that you are
trying to match in a list, not vice versa. The approach is required to be
very performant because it will be evaluated millions of times. I am also
okay with an unsafe code approach that works. I just need the evaluations to
terminate as soon as possible rather than looping through every single item
in the list. Even an IndexOf is too slow.

[amdrit]

Re: Fast way to determine if a string contains a member of a list of strings

I think RegEx will help you out here. As far as not iterating over the
entire list, I've no clue how you can selectively not fall through given the
only match in the list is the last item in the list or when there is no
match at all.


"Karch" <news.microsoft .comwrote in message
news:e993ZMufIH A.4684@TK2MSFTN GP06.phx.gbl...

>I need to find the fastest way in terms of storage and searching to
>determine if a given string contains one of a member of a list of strings.
>So, think of it in terms of this: I have a string such as the following:
>
"Smith said the dog belongs (or did belong) to the secretary, an employee
of the company."
>
Then the list contains the following (and this list is MUCH larger in the
real situation):
>
Adams
Alan
Jones
Jacobs
Smith
Thaxton
Vela
Zulu
>
I would need to stop the processing and return (true) as soon as Smith was
found. On the other hand, if the string was changed to the following,
there would be no match and I would return (false):
>
"Smitherson said the dog belongs (or did belong) to the secretary, an
employee of the company."
>
In the given string, do know that the matches should begin at a given
point (zero position), but I need to keep processing until I have
exhausted the candidate string in the list - as shown above - to prevent a
false match.
>
I have played around with some different data structures, such as prefix
and suffix trees, an these work in the case that you have a string that
you are trying to match in a list, not vice versa. The approach is
required to be very performant because it will be evaluated millions of
times. I am also okay with an unsafe code approach that works. I just need
the evaluations to terminate as soon as possible rather than looping
through every single item in the list. Even an IndexOf is too slow.
>

[John Daragon]

Re: Fast way to determine if a string contains a member of a listof strings

Karch wrote:

I need to find the fastest way in terms of storage and searching to
determine if a given string contains one of a member of a list of strings.
So, think of it in terms of this: I have a string such as the following:
>
"Smith said the dog belongs (or did belong) to the secretary, an employee of
the company."
>
Then the list contains the following (and this list is MUCH larger in the
real situation):
>
Adams
Alan
Jones
Jacobs
Smith
Thaxton
Vela
Zulu
>

Could you give us some idea of the likely length of the list? And
whether it's static or dynamic ?

jd

[Peter Duniho]

Re: Fast way to determine if a string contains a member of a list of strings

On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:05:22 -0800, Karch <news.microsoft .comwrote:

I need to find the fastest way in terms of storage and searching to
determine if a given string contains one of a member of a list of
strings.

I don't know if RegEx has optimizations for dealing with this sort of
thing. It could, but given how long a search string for RegEx could be if
you concatenate all of your possible matches, maybe it doesn't.

That'd be my first try though. It seems like the actual RegEx search
string would be simple (just "or" all of your possible matches together).
If it performs well enough, there you go.

If not, I'd guess there's a fair amount of research into algorithms like
this, but a fairly basic approach is a state graph. It's memory
intensive, but rewards you with good performance. This came up awhile ago
and I posted some sample code to get someone else started. You can find
that post here:

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp/msg/0f06f696d4500b77

I've referred to this post a couple of other times, and while I've never
had anyone say it actually turned out to be useful, they've never said it
wasn't either. :)

I suppose if I'm going to keep referring people to it, maybe I ought to
clean it up a little bit more. But what's there does work and should be
enough to get you pointed in the right direction.

Pete

[Jack Jackson]

Re: Fast way to determine if a string contains a member of a list of strings

One problem I see with this is that you apparently are not doing
simply a string search, but some kind of word search, without defining
what a word is.

You say the "Smithperso n said ..." should not have any matches, so
while the string Smith is a substring, it does not match.

Would it match:
(Smith
(Smith)
Smith,
Smith;
Smith-
smith

etc.

The answer to this will probably constrian your possible algorithms.
If it didn't get too many false hits, doing a string search first and
then re-checking to see if the matches are valid word matches might be
OK.

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:05:22 -0600, "Karch" <news.microsoft .comwrote:

>I need to find the fastest way in terms of storage and searching to
>determine if a given string contains one of a member of a list of strings.
>So, think of it in terms of this: I have a string such as the following:
>
>"Smith said the dog belongs (or did belong) to the secretary, an employee of
>the company."
>
>Then the list contains the following (and this list is MUCH larger in the
>real situation):
>
>Adams
>Alan
>Jones
>Jacobs
>Smith
>Thaxton
>Vela
>Zulu
>
>I would need to stop the processing and return (true) as soon as Smith was
>found. On the other hand, if the string was changed to the following, there
>would be no match and I would return (false):
>
>"Smitherson said the dog belongs (or did belong) to the secretary, an
>employee of the company."
>
>In the given string, do know that the matches should begin at a given point
>(zero position), but I need to keep processing until I have exhausted the
>candidate string in the list - as shown above - to prevent a false match.
>
>I have played around with some different data structures, such as prefix and
>suffix trees, an these work in the case that you have a string that you are
>trying to match in a list, not vice versa. The approach is required to be
>very performant because it will be evaluated millions of times. I am also
>okay with an unsafe code approach that works. I just need the evaluations to
>terminate as soon as possible rather than looping through every single item
>in the list. Even an IndexOf is too slow.
>

[Karch]

Re: Fast way to determine if a string contains a member of a list of strings

The list is static (read into memory during initialization) and could be up
to approximately 1000 items (hence the need for a fast method)

"John Daragon" <john@argv.co.u kwrote in message
news:47cee409$0 $21865$db0fefd9 @news.zen.co.uk ...

Karch wrote:

>I need to find the fastest way in terms of storage and searching to
>determine if a given string contains one of a member of a list of
>strings. So, think of it in terms of this: I have a string such as the
>following:
>>
>"Smith said the dog belongs (or did belong) to the secretary, an employee
>of the company."
>>
>Then the list contains the following (and this list is MUCH larger in the
>real situation):
>>
>Adams
>Alan
>Jones
>Jacobs
>Smith
>Thaxton
>Vela
>Zulu
>>

>
Could you give us some idea of the likely length of the list? And whether
it's static or dynamic ?
>
jd

[Karch]

Re: Fast way to determine if a string contains a member of a list of strings

I think the StateGraph approach is going to work best. I have an
implementation up and running and should be able to get some timings done
today. I don't think Regex is an option for me because of performance and
the fact that, although the list itself is static, it will be loaded into
memory at run-time. So, the expression building would be complex, not to
mention eating cycles just to prep.

"Peter Duniho" <NpOeStPeAdM@nn owslpianmk.comw rote in message
news:op.t7j3uag 28jd0ej@petes-computer.local. ..

On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:05:22 -0800, Karch <news.microsoft .comwrote:
>

>I need to find the fastest way in terms of storage and searching to
>determine if a given string contains one of a member of a list of
>strings.

>
I don't know if RegEx has optimizations for dealing with this sort of
thing. It could, but given how long a search string for RegEx could be if
you concatenate all of your possible matches, maybe it doesn't.
>
That'd be my first try though. It seems like the actual RegEx search
string would be simple (just "or" all of your possible matches together).
If it performs well enough, there you go.
>
If not, I'd guess there's a fair amount of research into algorithms like
this, but a fairly basic approach is a state graph. It's memory
intensive, but rewards you with good performance. This came up awhile ago
and I posted some sample code to get someone else started. You can find
that post here:

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.csharp/msg/0f06f696d4500b77

>
I've referred to this post a couple of other times, and while I've never
had anyone say it actually turned out to be useful, they've never said it
wasn't either. :)
>
I suppose if I'm going to keep referring people to it, maybe I ought to
clean it up a little bit more. But what's there does work and should be
enough to get you pointed in the right direction.
>
Pete

[Peter Duniho]

Re: Fast way to determine if a string contains a member of a list of strings

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:08:22 -0800, Karch <news.microsoft .comwrote:

I think the StateGraph approach is going to work best. I have an
implementation up and running and should be able to get some timings done
today.

Have you tried the dictionary approach suggested by a couple of others?

I wasn't paying attention when I first read your question and failed to
note that your search is delimited by spaces. Or, at least in the
examples you provided it was.

I think that if your data is actually restricted like that, the dictionary
lookup might be as fast as a state graph and it would be a lot simpler in
terms of implementation.

Just a thought. Obviously I really like state graphs :), but when there
is information you know about the input data that allows you to constrain
the problem a bit (e.g. by using spaces to identify the beginning and
ending of any possible match), it's often possible to solve the problem
efficiently without using a state graph.

Pete

[Peter Duniho]

Re: Fast way to determine if a string contains a member of a list of strings

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:12:51 -0800, Karch <news.microsoft .comwrote:

The Hashtable would work great alongside a tokenized string, but the
problem
is that I don't have a distinct delimiter since the string to be matched
can
span multiple words. It's really a question of "do any of these strings
appear in this source string", irrespective of whitespace.

Then how do you distinguish "Smith" from "Smitherson ", as in your
example? Can you at least make a requirement that the search pattern will
always begin and end on a space, even if it includes spaces within?

Pete

[Mufaka]

Re: Fast way to determine if a string contains a member of a listof strings

Mufaka wrote:

Karch wrote:

>The Hashtable would work great alongside a tokenized string, but the
>problem is that I don't have a distinct delimiter since the string to
>be matched can span multiple words. It's really a question of "do any
>of these strings appear in this source string", irrespective of
>whitespace.
>>

<snip>
This is a little different than your original post, but if you can't
delimit search string, you might try something like the following:
>
Hash the static list of words
Keep a list of unique lengths for those words
for each unique length, iterate the string pulling out substrings of
that length
see if that substring is in your hashed list of words
>
It at least reduces the amount of InString's you'd have to do.
>
I'd be interested in seeing how this performs against large strings.
Here's my test code:

<snip>

>
if (text.Length < length) break;

<snip>
That should be continue instead of break.

[Karch]

Re: Fast way to determine if a string contains a member of a list of strings

WOW! Really disappointing timings for the state machine method. Here are the
results:

Method: Looping through 359 strings doing an if (IndexOf 0) and a source
string of length = 47
Execution time: 0.055008 seconds.


Method: Using the StateMachine method on 359 strings and a source string of
length = 47
Execution time: 2.359223 seconds.



"Karch" <news.microsoft .comwrote in message
news:eXx$RU7fIH A.4880@TK2MSFTN GP03.phx.gbl...

>I think the StateGraph approach is going to work best. I have an
>implementati on up and running and should be able to get some timings done
>today. I don't think Regex is an option for me because of performance and
>the fact that, although the list itself is static, it will be loaded into
>memory at run-time. So, the expression building would be complex, not to
>mention eating cycles just to prep.
>
"Peter Duniho" <NpOeStPeAdM@nn owslpianmk.comw rote in message
news:op.t7j3uag 28jd0ej@petes-computer.local. ..

>On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:05:22 -0800, Karch <news.microsoft .comwrote:
>>

>>I need to find the fastest way in terms of storage and searching to
>>determine if a given string contains one of a member of a list of
>>strings.

>>
>I don't know if RegEx has optimizations for dealing with this sort of
>thing. It could, but given how long a search string for RegEx could be
>if you concatenate all of your possible matches, maybe it doesn't.
>>
>That'd be my first try though. It seems like the actual RegEx search
>string would be simple (just "or" all of your possible matches together).
>If it performs well enough, there you go.
>>
>If not, I'd guess there's a fair amount of research into algorithms like
>this, but a fairly basic approach is a state graph. It's memory
>intensive, but rewards you with good performance. This came up awhile
>ago and I posted some sample code to get someone else started. You can
>find that post here:
>http://groups.google.com/group/micro...06f696d4500b77
>>
>I've referred to this post a couple of other times, and while I've never
>had anyone say it actually turned out to be useful, they've never said it
>wasn't either. :)
>>
>I suppose if I'm going to keep referring people to it, maybe I ought to
>clean it up a little bit more. But what's there does work and should be
>enough to get you pointed in the right direction.
>>
>Pete

>
>

[John Daragon]

Re: Fast way to determine if a string contains a member of a listof strings

Karch wrote:
Snip 8<

>
Yeah, this would work really good - but one point that I didn't mention is
that I can't really tokenize the string since the strings to match could
span multiple words and whitepace. I looked at the data and I couldn't find
a realiable way to tokenize.
>

Snip 8<

Is the data in your list arbitrarily complex? I guess what I'm getting
at is: if the majority of the strings to match are simple strings with
no embedded spaces or other special characters, it may well be possible
to build a hashtable (fixated, me?) that caters for the simplest
(tokenised) case, but which returns an object identifying whether this
string can be standalone or is a prefix for a more complex one.
Everything apart from the simple case would have to be handled
exceptionally, but if they're few and far between you may well still be
a long way ahead of the game adopting a technique that is based on hashing.


jd

[Karch]

Re: Fast way to determine if a string contains a member of a list of strings

WOW! Really disappointing timings for the state machine method. Here are the
results:

Method: Looping through 359 strings doing an if (IndexOf 0) and a source
string of length = 47
Execution time: 0.055008 seconds.


Method: Using the StateMachine method on 359 strings and a source string of
length = 47
Execution time: 2.359223 seconds.

In my case, I can terminate the search as soon as ONE of the strings is
found because the list is mutually exclusive. In the sample code that you
provided, at what point do I know I have a match and can terminate the
traversal?

Also, to answer your question, I do not have space delimiters - the strings
can span multiple words, etc.

"Peter Duniho" <NpOeStPeAdM@nn owslpianmk.comw rote in message
news:op.t7lw7de w8jd0ej@petes-computer.local. ..

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:08:22 -0800, Karch <news.microsoft .comwrote:
>

>I think the StateGraph approach is going to work best. I have an
>implementati on up and running and should be able to get some timings done
>today.

>
Have you tried the dictionary approach suggested by a couple of others?
>
I wasn't paying attention when I first read your question and failed to
note that your search is delimited by spaces. Or, at least in the
examples you provided it was.
>
I think that if your data is actually restricted like that, the dictionary
lookup might be as fast as a state graph and it would be a lot simpler in
terms of implementation.
>
Just a thought. Obviously I really like state graphs :), but when there
is information you know about the input data that allows you to constrain
the problem a bit (e.g. by using spaces to identify the beginning and
ending of any possible match), it's often possible to solve the problem
efficiently without using a state graph.
>
Pete

[Peter Duniho]

Re: Fast way to determine if a string contains a member of a list of strings

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:35:05 -0700, Karch <news.microsoft .comwrote:

I only create the state graph one time and I only populate the list of
strings one time. So, those are not interfering with proper timings; I am
only timing the searches. But, just for fun, here is the same test with
1M
iterations. The ratio is about the same.

What is your input data? Does the input string contain any of the search
strings? If so, where is that search string in the list of search
strings? Are you doing 1 million identical searches, or are you somehow
randomizing the input?

Basically, that's a fairly minimal improvement relative to the potential
of the state graph versus a brute force IndexOf() solution. So either
your test case is somehow favorable to the IndexOf(), or there's still
some remaining problem with the state graph implementation.

Pete

[Karch]

Re: Fast way to determine if a string contains a member of a list of strings

Yes, you are right; my input data is not as random as it could be. I just
wanted to get a quick snapshot, so it's likely that the improvement would be
greater over a larger and more varied set. I'll put together a more
realistic set of test data and report back.

"Peter Duniho" <NpOeStPeAdM@nn owslpianmk.comw rote in message
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:35:05 -0700, Karch <news.microsoft .comwrote:
>

>I only create the state graph one time and I only populate the list of
>strings one time. So, those are not interfering with proper timings; I am
>only timing the searches. But, just for fun, here is the same test with
>1M
>iterations. The ratio is about the same.

>
What is your input data? Does the input string contain any of the search
strings? If so, where is that search string in the list of search
strings? Are you doing 1 million identical searches, or are you somehow
randomizing the input?
>
Basically, that's a fairly minimal improvement relative to the potential
of the state graph versus a brute force IndexOf() solution. So either
your test case is somehow favorable to the IndexOf(), or there's still
some remaining problem with the state graph implementation.
>
Pete