Proper use of delegates.

[Roger Frost]

Since we are currently on the subject of multi-threading in a different
thread, I have a question about delegates.

When I use delegates, I just create one for each different parameter set
that I need.

For example:

delegate void callBackString( string d_string);

delegate void callBackStringA rray(string[] d_string);

delegate void callBackInt(int d_int);

delegate void callBackSB(stri ng d_string, bool d_bool);



....And then I just reuse them when and where I need them.

Is this the proper way to use delegates?

I'm highly interested in the most efficient way if this isn't it.

Thanks

--
Roger Frost
"Logic Is Syntax Independent"

[Marc Gravell]

Re: Proper use of delegates.

Generics - but it is already done for you: consider Action<T>?
i.e. Action<string>, Action<string[]and Action<intetc match your first 3
examples

..NET 3.5 introduces multi-paramater variants:
Action<string,b oolmatches your last example

If the delegate should return a value, then Func<...is also available -
i.e.
"int Foo(string arg)" would match Func<string,int >

Marc

[Roger Frost]

Re: Proper use of delegates.

"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <skeet@pobox.co mwrote in message
news:MPG.22288d 315f2fe831956@m snews.microsoft .com...

Roger Frost <frostrl@hotmai l.comwrote:

>>
>When I use delegates, I just create one for each different parameter set
>that I need.
>>
>For example:
>>
> delegate void callBackString( string d_string);
>>
>>
>...And then I just reuse them when and where I need them.
>>
>Is this the proper way to use delegates?
>>
>I'm highly interested in the most efficient way if this isn't it.

>
1) You're declaring a type, so use the normal convention for type
names: Pascal case.

Conventions are something that I struggle with and hope to get better at.
When it is just me writing programs, it's not a problem, but I know that I
need to learn the standards...and I appreciate having my mistakes pointed
out.

>
2) If you're using .NET 3.5 you can use the built-in Action<...>
delegates; your delegates above are equivalent to
>
Action<string>
Action<string[]>
Action<int>
Action<string,b ool>
>

Yup .NET 3.5, I will optimize my code for this.

Thanks!

[Peter Duniho]

Re: Proper use of delegates.

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:22:22 -0800, Roger Frost <frostrl@hotmai l.com>
wrote:

Since we are currently on the subject of multi-threading in a different
thread, I have a question about delegates.
>
When I use delegates, I just create one for each different parameter set
that I need.
>
[...]
...And then I just reuse them when and where I need them.
>
Is this the proper way to use delegates?

Well, for single-parameter delegates that return void, you could just use
the generic Action<Tdelegat e. So, for example, where you'd declare and
use "delegate void callBackString( string d_string)", you'd skip the
declaration and just use "Action<string> " instead where you would have
used "callBackString " as the type. There's also a no-parameter delegate
named Action. Non-generic, obviously.

If you're using .NET 3.5, they've added two, three, and four-parameter
versions of the same generic type. If you need more than four parameters,
then you might consider declaring a single generic delegate type for each
parameter count you need that you reuse as necessary, rather than making a
new one for each more-than-four-parameter action you have.

For example:

delegate void Action<T1, T2, T3, T4, T5>(T1 t1, T2 t2, T3 t3, T4
t4, T5 t5);

Of course, if you've got more than four parameters for an action, you may
have other issues. But at least you can avoid making all those delegate
types. :)

If you're not using .NET 3.5, then you could of course declare the two-,
three-, and four-parameter Action delegate types yourself, as with the
five-parameter example above (except with fewer parameters, of course :) ).

Pete

[Roger Frost]

Re: Proper use of delegates.

Thanks to everyone for the help...here is what I have now:

private void populateListVie ws(string[] fileList)
{//Addes the file(s) to the correct ListView Queues.

//Handle calls from a different thread.
if (InvokeRequired )
{//Caller is on a different thread.

//Create a new delegate.
Action<string[]cb = new
Action<string[]>(populateListV iews);

//Invoke the delegate on the owner thread.
Invoke(cb, new object[] { fileList });
}
else
{//Caller is on this thread.
//The good stuff.
}

Is this the Proper use of delegates in .NET 3.5?

If so, can I get a brief run down of what I am gaining over:

delegate void CallBackStringA rray(string[] d_string);

[...]

CallBackString cb = new CallBackString( populateListVie ws);

Invoke(cb, new object[] { fileList });


While we are here, how are my conventions in these examples?



"Peter Duniho" <NpOeStPeAdM@nn owslpianmk.comw rote in message
news:op.t6w1umz 28jd0ej@petes-computer.local. ..

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:22:22 -0800, Roger Frost <frostrl@hotmai l.com>
wrote:
>

>Since we are currently on the subject of multi-threading in a different
>thread, I have a question about delegates.
>>
>When I use delegates, I just create one for each different parameter set
>that I need.
>>
>[...]
>...And then I just reuse them when and where I need them.
>>
>Is this the proper way to use delegates?

>
Well, for single-parameter delegates that return void, you could just use
the generic Action<Tdelegat e. So, for example, where you'd declare and
use "delegate void callBackString( string d_string)", you'd skip the
declaration and just use "Action<string> " instead where you would have
used "callBackString " as the type. There's also a no-parameter delegate
named Action. Non-generic, obviously.
>
If you're using .NET 3.5, they've added two, three, and four-parameter
versions of the same generic type. If you need more than four parameters,
then you might consider declaring a single generic delegate type for each
parameter count you need that you reuse as necessary, rather than making a
new one for each more-than-four-parameter action you have.
>
For example:
>
delegate void Action<T1, T2, T3, T4, T5>(T1 t1, T2 t2, T3 t3, T4
t4, T5 t5);
>
Of course, if you've got more than four parameters for an action, you may
have other issues. But at least you can avoid making all those delegate
types. :)
>
If you're not using .NET 3.5, then you could of course declare the two-,
three-, and four-parameter Action delegate types yourself, as with the
five-parameter example above (except with fewer parameters, of course
:) ).
>
Pete

[Roger Frost]

Re: Proper use of delegates.

Oops, how about...

Is this the Proper use of delegates in .NET 3.5?
>
If so, can I get a brief run down of what I am gaining over:
>
delegate void CallBackStringA rray(string[] d_string);
>
[...]
>
CallBackStringA rray cb = new CallBackStringA rray(populateLi stViews);
>
Invoke(cb, new object[] { fileList });

[Roger Frost]

Re: Proper use of delegates.

I really appreciate everyone taking the time to help. I have a problem
using Jon's example with my string array methods...



"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <skeet@pobox.co mwrote in message
news:MPG.2228cf 7a15cc1c0395f@m snews.microsoft .com...

[...] You don't need to declare the variable
first, and you can just cast to Action<string[]>, giving:
>
if (InvokeRequired )
{
Invoke ((Action<string >[]) populateListVie ws, fileList);
}
else
{
...
}
>

First of all

Invoke((Action< string>)writeSt atus, newMsg);

Works fine on my string method, no problem what so ever.

But...

Invoke((Action< string>[])populateListVi ews, fileList);

Doesn't compile, 3 errors:

1) Cannot convert method group 'populateListVi ews' to non-delegate type
'System.Action< string>[]'. Did you intend to invoke the method?

2) The best overloaded method match for
'System.Windows .Forms.Control. Invoke(System.D elegate, params object[])' has
some invalid arguments.

(My method populateListVie ws isn't overloaded, by the way)

3) Argument '1': cannot convert from 'System.Action< string>[]' to
'System.Delegat e'



If I change it to:

Invoke((Action< string[]>)populateListV iews, fileList);

(Which is what I think Jon meant in the first place, as far as I can tell
due to the compile time errors above.)

It compiles fine, but at run time I get a "Parameter count mismatch." logic
error.

My method is: private void populateListVie ws(string[] fileList){...}

And the call is: populateListVie ws(Directory.Ge tFiles(folderPa th));

Directory.GetFi les() returns string[], and my logic was fine when I was
declaring my own delegate or Action<string[]cb = new
Action<string[]>(populateListV iews);


I have tried several different combinations, some compiled and some didn't,
but the ones that compiled always raise that same logic error. What am I
missing?



--
Roger Frost
"Logic Is Syntax Independent"

[jehugaleahsa@gmail.com]

Re: Proper use of delegates.

To be honest, I preferred you earlier example. I believe a delegate
should be named after what it is doing, not given a generic name based
on its parameters and return type. It is convenient to use built-in
delegates, but do they tell readers anything? Look at
Converter<TInpu t, TOutput>, it is one of the most useful delegate
definitions out there - it take something, it returns something. But,
if I'm not converting anything, why am I adding my method name into
it?

I say, using 3.0's delegates is fine because, well, you are forced to
(and they usually make sense). However, especially when doing UI
threading delegates, make as many delegates as you need so that
delegate names make sense. It is no different than finding good names
for any other variable.

I'm not sure why not to use better names and why anyone would suggest
replacing a good name with a more generic one.

IMHO,
Travis

[Marc Gravell]

Re: Proper use of delegates.

make as many delegates as you need so that

delegate names make sense

Additional to Jon's reply...

If I see a delegate argument JoesCustomWossi t, then if I'm not
familiar I need to look up what the interface is from the metadata/
docs. However, if I see a delegate argument Func<float,floa t,bool>
then I know that it takes 2 floats and returns a bool. Combine that
with the argument name that hopefully indicates its purpose, and I
have everything I need to start coding.

Marc

[Chris Shepherd]

Re: Proper use of delegates.

Peter Duniho wrote:
[...]

You need better co-workers. Seriously.

I had to laugh when I read this -- I've felt the OP's pain on more than one
occasion at both my current place of employ and previous ones.
This is probably the appropriate (well, *accurate*) response to probably two
thirds of the lengthy discussions that take place here that mention work
environment in any way.

Chris.

[Peter Duniho]

Re: Proper use of delegates.

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 05:27:03 -0800, Chris Shepherd <chsh@nospam.ch sh.ca>
wrote:

If my understanding is correct, there's no funny business. The second
parameter is a *params* object[]

Ah, right. It's funny...I was actually looking for that "params" keyword
in the docs, and didn't see it. When I went back and looked at the exact
same page I'd looked at before, sure enough there it was.

I think someone is messing with my head. :)

Pete