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[Roger Frost]

Greetings all,

I have advanced my programming skills to the point where I am comfortable
discussing various topics and have at least a few experiences to share...so
now I want to get in on the action in some of the groups. C# is my first
choice...

I would just like to know the rules (and etiquette) ...is there a page that
contains this information?

I know we should all be polite and courteous, not only here, but everywhere,
that's a given...

My major question at this point is: Who is "allowed" to answer questions
for others?


Thanks,

Newbie Roger

[Michael S]

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"Roger Frost" <frostrl@hotmai l.comwrote in message
news:F40C6E27-77A3-40EA-8305-98AC9F505790@mi crosoft.com...

Greetings all,
>
I know we should all be polite and courteous, not only here, but
everywhere, that's a given...

Yep.

>
My major question at this point is: Who is "allowed" to answer questions
for others?
>

Everyone and anyone

>
Thanks,
>
Newbie Roger

Happy posting

- Michael Starberg

[Peter Duniho]

Re: Information about this group

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:43:59 -0800, Roger Frost <frostrl@hotmai l.com>
wrote:

[...]
I would just like to know the rules (and etiquette) ...is there a page
that contains this information?

I'm not aware of any specific to this newsgroup. However, the general
Usenet netiquette rules do apply, even as we sometimes forget them. :)

I know we should all be polite and courteous, not only here, but
everywhere, that's a given...
>
My major question at this point is: Who is "allowed" to answer
questions for others?

Anyone. Even me. :)

Pete

[christery@gmail.com]

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I would just like to know the rules (and etiquette) ...is there a page that
contains this information?
>

Nah, just dont use caps (normal netiquette) the rest will come clear
as some of the other members point out all (my) misstakes ;)

The hard part is all the IMHO/IMO/OT/OP/LOL/ROFL/IRL and so on mumbo
jumbo
the greatest might be the AYBABTU! (All Your Base Are Belong To Us)
so C# is the easy part ;P

//CY

[Jon Skeet [C# MVP]]

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On Feb 19, 6:43 am, "Roger Frost" <fros...@hotmai l.comwrote:

<snip>

I would just like to know the rules (and etiquette) ...is there a page that
contains this information?

I wrote a page a while ago, but it's *just* my personal opinion - it's
certainly not "group policy" or anything like that:

http://pobox.com/~skeet/csharp/faq/posting.html

Jon

[christery@gmail.com]

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On 19 Feb, 11:05, "Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <sk...@pobox.co mwrote:

On Feb 19, 6:43 am, "Roger Frost" <fros...@hotmai l.comwrote:
>
<snip>
>

I would just like to know the rules (and etiquette) ...is there a page that
contains this information?

>
I wrote a page a while ago, but it's *just* my personal opinion - it's
certainly not "group policy" or anything like that:
>

http://pobox.com/~skeet/csharp/faq/posting.html

>
Jon

Nice points, one point though, you are not adressing is that some of
us are not using our normal /spoken/ language, and there might be a
bit of trouble with understanding that... thinking in japanese,
finnish, american will generate some funny sentences... I do I know,
as I write like crap and then the keyboard of this laptop is a bit ...
hmm... lets say scrappy(if there is such a word)... the time
difference is another thought, when I put something out its midnight
somewhere else...

And I would say, dont use the group for solving homework ;)

Oh, it was more than one... sorry ;)

//CY

[Roger Frost]

Re: Information about this group

<snip>

>

>I would just like to know the rules (and etiquette) ...is there a page
>that
>contains this information?

>
I wrote a page a while ago, but it's *just* my personal opinion - it's
certainly not "group policy" or anything like that:
>

http://pobox.com/~skeet/csharp/faq/posting.html

>
Jon

Thanks Jon, that's exactly the information I was looking for.

I move we make it official "group policy." Okay, maybe I don't have that
kind of authority yet...

What does C# MVP mean? I can decipher the acronym, but what does it
_really_ mean? I am currently using Windows Live Mail as my news reader,
and you MVPs should be delighted to learn that, at least in this reader, you
get your own Icon. How cool is that!?!?

I haven't used Outlook Express for a few years, but I believe Windows Live
Mail is very similar in many ways pertaining to formatting outgoing
messages. Maybe with time I can figure out how to get those annoying line
breaks and paragraph formats out of my messages.

Why do we need line limits in plain text anyhow? Most readers will wrap
text. I understand we don't want to scroll the entire message on the
horizontal when viewing from a news reader website, but proper CSS can
handle that.

I move we standardize the Net as well...

Okay, way off topic now.

Thanks to everyone for the warm welcome.


--
Roger Frost
"Logic Is Syntax Independent"

[Peter Duniho]

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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:00:33 -0800, Roger Frost <frostrl@hotmai l.com
wrote:

[...]
I haven't used Outlook Express for a few years, but I believe Windows
Live Mail is very similar in many ways pertaining to formatting outgoing
messages. Maybe with time I can figure out how to get those annoying
line breaks and paragraph formats out of my messages.

Done. :)

As it happens, many message clients, including Live Mail (and if I recall
OE, but I'm not sure), support "flowed" text. From the header for your
message:

Content-Type: text/plain;
format=flowed;
charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Note the "format=flo wed" part. That means that even though your message
client is in fact putting line-breaks, other message clients displaying
your message are instructed to take them back out before displaying,
reflowing the text to fit the reader's view of the text.

So, for example, my newsreader does not show me the line breaks your
message client put in your message. I show your lines as taking the
entire width of my window.

Why do we need line limits in plain text anyhow? Most readers will wrap
text. I understand we don't want to scroll the entire message on the
horizontal when viewing from a news reader website, but proper CSS can
handle that.
>
I move we standardize the Net as well...

Done. :)

Okay, way off topic now.

Yup.

Pete

[Roger Frost]

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"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <skeet@pobox.co mwrote in message
news:MPG.22256b f1d5917784917@m snews.microsoft .com...

>

>What does C# MVP mean? I can decipher the acronym, but what does it
>_really_ mean?

>
MVPs are people who have helped a lot of people over the course of
time. That's about all there is to it, really. In particular:
>
o MVPs tend to be reasonably knowledgable, but aren't necessarily
experts. We're also quite capable of being wrong. Don't be afraid
to challenge/correct us.
>
o MVPs aren't paid by Microsoft. We get gifts every so often, but
nothing that prevents us from being independent. If a non-MS tool
is the best way forward in a particular situation, don't be surprised
to see an MVP say so.
>
o MVPs are awarded for *past* contributions, not current ones. For
instance, if I had just been re-awarded (in fact my award cycle is
in October, but never mind - it's yearly, anyway) I could just sit
back and not help anyone, without the award being taken away. It's
to do with the *previous* year.
>
o MVPs do tend to have reasonable connections inside MS, particularly
within their product groups. I know a few members of the C# team well
enough that they'd recognise my name, at least :) We also *sometimes*
know confidential information, which we *won't* reveal.
>
Does that help?
>

Yup, and that's very interesting. Thanks....I suppose we should end this
thread now, I have enough to get started :)


--
Roger Frost
"Logic Is Syntax Independent"