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  • mills.toby@gmail.com

    One of two identical asp.net websites not responding

    We have a Windows 2003 Server, serving an asp.net (2.0) website.
    Recently the website stopped responding. When trying to access the
    website, no response is received at all. This includes when browsing
    the website from the local machine.

    While investigating the problem, we added a second copy of the
    website, created a second virtual directory in IIS, tried to access
    it, and it worked. The original website was still not responding.

    Further investigation showed that after restarting IIS, whichever of
    the 2 websites was accessed first would hang, and then the other would
    work just fine. The problem also is restricted to an Application Pool.
    If I create a second application pool, with two more copies of the
    website, only the website accessed second will respond (i.e. we have
    two responsive and two non-responsive websites).

    This problem only began recently on 2 separate servers (on the same
    WAN) that were both previously working fine. We created a brand new
    Virtual Server and were immediately faced with the same problem.

    We have two other servers on the same WAN, with the same website
    installed which do not suffer from this problem at all.

    Has anybody seen anything like this before?

    Thanks in advance,
    Toby :)
  • Juan T. Llibre

    #2
    Re: One of two identical asp.net websites not responding

    What do the identical applications do ?

    Could they be competing for resources which need to be locked down ?
    Would resource contention be a possible source of the problem ?



    Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
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    <mills.toby@gma il.comwrote in message news:fb75b864-a201-47d3-a2bb-54af8a88ed92@25 g2000hsx.google groups.com...
    We have a Windows 2003 Server, serving an asp.net (2.0) website.
    Recently the website stopped responding. When trying to access the
    website, no response is received at all. This includes when browsing
    the website from the local machine.
    >
    While investigating the problem, we added a second copy of the
    website, created a second virtual directory in IIS, tried to access
    it, and it worked. The original website was still not responding.
    >
    Further investigation showed that after restarting IIS, whichever of
    the 2 websites was accessed first would hang, and then the other would
    work just fine. The problem also is restricted to an Application Pool.
    If I create a second application pool, with two more copies of the
    website, only the website accessed second will respond (i.e. we have
    two responsive and two non-responsive websites).
    >
    This problem only began recently on 2 separate servers (on the same
    WAN) that were both previously working fine. We created a brand new
    Virtual Server and were immediately faced with the same problem.
    >
    We have two other servers on the same WAN, with the same website
    installed which do not suffer from this problem at all.
    >
    Has anybody seen anything like this before?
    >
    Thanks in advance,
    Toby :)

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    • mills.toby@gmail.com

      #3
      Re: One of two identical asp.net websites not responding

      On Sep 25, 1:54 pm, "Juan T. Llibre" <nomailrepl...@ nowhere.com>
      wrote:
      What do the identical applications do ?
      >
      Could they be competing for resources which need to be locked down ?
      Would resource contention be a possible source of the problem ?
      >
      Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
      asp.net faq :http://asp.net.do/faq/
      foros de asp.net, en español :http://asp.net.do/foros/
      =============== =============== ========
      >
      <mills.t...@gma il.comwrote in messagenews:fb7 5b864-a201-47d3-a2bb-54af8a88ed92@25 g2000hsx.google groups.com...
      We have a Windows 2003 Server, serving an asp.net (2.0) website.
      Recently the website stopped responding. When trying to access the
      website, no response is received at all. This includes when browsing
      the website from the local machine.
      >
      While investigating the problem, we added a second copy of the
      website, created a second virtual directory in IIS, tried to access
      it, and it worked. The original website was still not responding.
      >
      Further investigation showed that after restarting IIS, whichever of
      the 2 websites was accessed first would hang, and then the other would
      work just fine. The problem also is restricted to an Application Pool.
      If I create a second application pool, with two more copies of the
      website, only the website accessed second will respond (i.e. we have
      two responsive and two non-responsive websites).
      >
      This problem only began recently on 2 separate servers (on the same
      WAN) that were both previously working fine. We created a brand new
      Virtual Server and were immediately faced with the same problem.
      >
      We have two other servers on the same WAN, with the same website
      installed which do not suffer from this problem at all.
      >
      Has anybody seen anything like this before?
      >
      Thanks in advance,
      Toby :)
      The application is a database driven application for managing mining
      related data. The problem is not resource contention, as it is the
      first instance that hangs - even if the second instance is never
      started up. In fact the first instance hangs even if there is no
      second instance!

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      • Registered User

        #4
        Re: One of two identical asp.net websites not responding

        On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:34:51 -0700 (PDT), mills.toby@gmai l.com wrote:
        >We have a Windows 2003 Server, serving an asp.net (2.0) website.
        >Recently the website stopped responding. When trying to access the
        >website, no response is received at all. This includes when browsing
        >the website from the local machine.
        >
        >While investigating the problem, we added a second copy of the
        >website, created a second virtual directory in IIS, tried to access
        >it, and it worked. The original website was still not responding.
        >
        >Further investigation showed that after restarting IIS, whichever of
        >the 2 websites was accessed first would hang, and then the other would
        >work just fine. The problem also is restricted to an Application Pool.
        >If I create a second application pool, with two more copies of the
        >website, only the website accessed second will respond (i.e. we have
        >two responsive and two non-responsive websites).
        >
        >This problem only began recently on 2 separate servers (on the same
        >WAN) that were both previously working fine. We created a brand new
        >Virtual Server and were immediately faced with the same problem.
        >
        >We have two other servers on the same WAN, with the same website
        >installed which do not suffer from this problem at all.
        >
        This sounds like a configuration issue. I would start by comparing the
        working and non-working servers' IIS and event logs.

        regards
        A.G.

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        • mills.toby@gmail.com

          #5
          Re: One of two identical asp.net websites not responding

          On Sep 26, 1:55 pm, Registered User <n4...@ix.netco m.comwrote:
          On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:34:51 -0700 (PDT), mills.t...@gmai l.com wrote:
          We have a Windows 2003 Server, serving anasp.net(2.0) website.
          Recently the website stopped responding. When trying to access the
          website, no response is received at all. This includes when browsing
          the website from the local machine.
          >
          While investigating the problem, we added a second copy of the
          website, created a second virtual directory inIIS, tried to access
          it, and it worked. The original website was stillnot responding.
          >
          Further investigation showed that after restartingIIS, whichever of
          the 2 websites was accessed first would hang, and then the other would
          work just fine. The problem also is restricted to an Application Pool.
          If I create a second application pool, with two more copies of the
          website, only the website accessed second will respond (i.e. we have
          two responsive and two non-responsive websites).
          >
          This problem only began recently on 2 separate servers (on the same
          WAN) that were both previously working fine. We created a brand new
          Virtual Server and were immediately faced with the same problem.
          >
          We have two other servers on the same WAN, with the same website
          installed which do not suffer from this problem at all.
          >
          This sounds like a configuration issue. I would start by comparing the
          working and non-working servers'IISand event logs.
          >
          regards
          A.G.
          Looks like we may have cracked the problem. It looks like it was
          Symantec AntiVirus. It's just weird that the first website hangs, but
          the second works fine. Maybe the first one distracts the AntiVirus
          while the second one sneaks in unnoticed!

          Comment

          • mills.toby@gmail.com

            #6
            Re: One of two identical asp.net websites not responding

            On Sep 26, 1:55 pm, Registered User <n4...@ix.netco m.comwrote:
            On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:34:51 -0700 (PDT),mills.t.. .@gmail.com wrote:
            We have a Windows 2003 Server, serving an asp.net (2.0) website.
            Recently the website stopped responding. When trying to access the
            website, no response is received at all. This includes when browsing
            the website from the local machine.
            >
            While investigating the problem, we added a second copy of the
            website, created a second virtual directory in IIS, tried to access
            it, and it worked. The original website was still not responding.
            >
            Further investigation showed that after restarting IIS, whichever of
            the 2 websites was accessed first would hang, and then the other would
            work just fine. The problem also is restricted to an Application Pool.
            If I create a second application pool, with two more copies of the
            website, only the website accessed second will respond (i.e. we have
            two responsive and two non-responsive websites).
            >
            This problem only began recently on 2 separate servers (on the same
            WAN) that were both previously working fine. We created a brand new
            Virtual Server and were immediately faced with the same problem.
            >
            We have two other servers on the same WAN, with the same website
            installed which do not suffer from this problem at all.
            >
            This sounds like a configuration issue. I would start by comparing the
            working and non-working servers' IIS and event logs.
            >
            regards
            A.G.
            It is the same IIS server, just 2 different virtual directories.

            Comment

            • mills.toby@gmail.com

              #7
              Re: One of two identical asp.net websites not responding

              On Sep 26, 3:26 pm, mills.t...@gmai l.com wrote:
              On Sep 26, 1:55 pm, Registered User <n4...@ix.netco m.comwrote:
              >
              >
              >
              On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:34:51 -0700 (PDT),mills.t.. .@gmail.com wrote:
              >We have a Windows 2003 Server, serving anasp.net(2.0) website.
              >Recently the website stopped responding. When trying to access the
              >website, no response is received at all. This includes when browsing
              >the website from the local machine.
              >
              >While investigating the problem, we added a second copy of the
              >website, created a second virtual directory inIIS, tried to access
              >it, and it worked. The original website was stillnot responding.
              >
              >Further investigation showed that after restartingIIS, whichever of
              >the 2 websites was accessed first would hang, and then the other would
              >work just fine. The problem also is restricted to an Application Pool.
              >If I create a second application pool, with two more copies of the
              >website, only the website accessed second will respond (i.e. we have
              >two responsive and two non-responsive websites).
              >
              >This problem only began recently on 2 separate servers (on the same
              >WAN) that were both previously working fine. We created a brand new
              >Virtual Server and were immediately faced with the same problem.
              >
              >We have two other servers on the same WAN, with the same website
              >installed which do not suffer from this problem at all.
              >
              This sounds like a configuration issue. I would start by comparing the
              working and non-working servers'IISand event logs.
              >
              regards
              A.G.
              >
              Looks like we may have cracked the problem. It looks like it was
              Symantec AntiVirus. It's just weird that the first website hangs, but
              the second works fine. Maybe the first one distracts the AntiVirus
              while the second one sneaks in unnoticed!
              I take that last remark back. Turning off the antivirus makes no
              difference.

              Anybody have any ideas?

              Comment

              • mills.toby@gmail.com

                #8
                Re: One of two identical asp.net websites not responding

                On Oct 6, 8:29 pm, mills.t...@gmai l.com wrote:
                On Sep 26, 3:26 pm,mills.t...@g mail.com wrote:
                >
                >
                >
                On Sep 26, 1:55 pm, Registered User <n4...@ix.netco m.comwrote:
                >
                On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:34:51 -0700 (PDT),mills.t.. .@gmail.com wrote:
                We have a Windows 2003 Server, serving anasp.net(2.0) website.
                Recently the website stopped responding. When trying to access the
                website, no response is received at all. This includes when browsing
                the website from the local machine.
                >
                While investigating the problem, we added a second copy of the
                website, created a second virtual directory inIIS, tried to access
                it, and it worked. The original website was stillnot responding.
                >
                Further investigation showed that after restartingIIS, whichever of
                the 2 websites was accessed first would hang, and then the other would
                work just fine. The problem also is restricted to an Application Pool.
                If I create a second application pool, with two more copies of the
                website, only the website accessed second will respond (i.e. we have
                two responsive and two non-responsive websites).
                >
                This problem only began recently on 2 separate servers (on the same
                WAN) that were both previously working fine. We created a brand new
                Virtual Server and were immediately faced with the same problem.
                >
                We have two other servers on the same WAN, with the same website
                installed which do not suffer from this problem at all.
                >
                This sounds like a configuration issue. I would start by comparing the
                working and non-working servers'IISand event logs.
                >
                regards
                A.G.
                >
                Looks like we may have cracked the problem. It looks like it was
                Symantec AntiVirus. It's just weird that the first website hangs, but
                the second works fine. Maybe the first one distracts the AntiVirus
                while the second one sneaks in unnoticed!
                >
                I take that last remark back. Turning off the antivirus makes no
                difference.
                >
                Anybody have any ideas?
                Some additional information:

                After restarting IIS:
                I access site 1 and it hangs
                I access site 2 and it responds fine
                I edit the web.config file for site 1 (making no actually change)
                forcing a recompile, and it works fine.
                So I have 2 working sites.

                But if I restart IIS, I'm back to square one, with wichever website I
                access first not responding.

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