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  • =?Utf-8?B?YzY3NjIyOA==?=
    #1

    can this be solved using ASP?

    Hi All,

    Our company is merging two production domains(from two different servers)
    onto one server. So during the migration we use an intranet testing server to
    hold all files from these two domain, when we do testing, we use host file to
    map intranet IPs to these two domains. It will not impact on production
    sites since it won't be seen externally. These two domains navigable each
    other, that means from domainA we have links to domainB, while from domainB,
    we have links to domainA.
    These domain names are all hard coded in the program.
    Now it seems a big problem. When we move all these file to a new production
    server which is at a public hosting company, we need to do testing, at this
    moment,
    old production servers are still running and we have to use IPs to do
    testing, cannot map IPs to domain names at all. That means all hard-coded
    links from domainA to domainB will not work, and I have to change all the
    links from domain name to IP?
    Then when we finally go live with our new production server, I have switch
    back to
    domain name, what a mess? I didn't think through all those steps when we did
    it.
    Anybody has better solution?
    Thank you so much


    --
    Betty
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    • Steven Cheng
      #2
      RE: can this be solved using ASP?

      Hi Betty,

      How many pages or links will you need to replace here? I'm afraid for such
      scenario, there hasn't any quick & simple means to do a replace or
      redirection. Also, since the problem only occurs during the time your pages
      are deployed on external server and want to test from internal, I think
      adding additional code logic to do redirection is also not quite
      reasonable. I will still suggest manually replace those link's servername.

      Steven Cheng
      Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

      Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and
      suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please
      feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service
      provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at:
      msdnmg@microsof t.com.

      This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

      --------------------
      >From: =?Utf-8?B?YzY3NjIyOA= =?= <betty@newsgrou p.nospam>
      >Subject: can this be solved using ASP?
      >Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:35:01 -0700
      >
      >Hi All,
      >
      >Our company is merging two production domains(from two different servers)
      >onto one server. So during the migration we use an intranet testing server
      to
      >hold all files from these two domain, when we do testing, we use host file
      to
      >map intranet IPs to these two domains. It will not impact on production
      >sites since it won't be seen externally. These two domains navigable each
      >other, that means from domainA we have links to domainB, while from
      domainB,
      >we have links to domainA.
      >These domain names are all hard coded in the program.
      >Now it seems a big problem. When we move all these file to a new
      production
      >server which is at a public hosting company, we need to do testing, at
      this
      >moment,
      >old production servers are still running and we have to use IPs to do
      >testing, cannot map IPs to domain names at all. That means all hard-coded
      >links from domainA to domainB will not work, and I have to change all the
      >links from domain name to IP?
      >Then when we finally go live with our new production server, I have switch
      >back to
      >domain name, what a mess? I didn't think through all those steps when we
      did
      >it.
      >Anybody has better solution?
      >Thank you so much
      >
      >
      >--
      >Betty
      >

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        • =?Utf-8?B?YzY3NjIyOA==?=
          #3
          RE: can this be solved using ASP?

          Hi Steven,

          I am thinking I will still use host file to map our domain name to our new
          production server for testing. That way I don't need to write any code or
          replace any code. But I am not sure if it is OK or if it will confuse google
          search engine or some DNS Servers since our DNS server will still point our
          domain name to our current(old) production server (old IP address).

          I am just wondering if the real world will see our domain name has two IPs
          since our new production server is located at public hosting company too.

          Or the question is if you use another IP to map to a domain name in
          production for the purpose of testing, will it hurt our current production
          site?

          Hopefully
          --
          Betty


          ""Steven Cheng"" wrote:
          Hi Betty,
          >
          How many pages or links will you need to replace here? I'm afraid for such
          scenario, there hasn't any quick & simple means to do a replace or
          redirection. Also, since the problem only occurs during the time your pages
          are deployed on external server and want to test from internal, I think
          adding additional code logic to do redirection is also not quite
          reasonable. I will still suggest manually replace those link's servername.
          >
          Steven Cheng
          Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead
          >
          Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and
          suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please
          feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service
          provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at:
          msdnmg@microsof t.com.
          >
          This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
          >
          --------------------
          >
          From: =?Utf-8?B?YzY3NjIyOA= =?= <betty@newsgrou p.nospam>
          Subject: can this be solved using ASP?
          Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:35:01 -0700
          >

          Hi All,

          Our company is merging two production domains(from two different servers)
          onto one server. So during the migration we use an intranet testing server
          to
          hold all files from these two domain, when we do testing, we use host file
          to
          map intranet IPs to these two domains. It will not impact on production
          sites since it won't be seen externally. These two domains navigable each
          other, that means from domainA we have links to domainB, while from
          domainB,
          we have links to domainA.
          These domain names are all hard coded in the program.
          Now it seems a big problem. When we move all these file to a new
          production
          server which is at a public hosting company, we need to do testing, at
          this
          moment,
          old production servers are still running and we have to use IPs to do
          testing, cannot map IPs to domain names at all. That means all hard-coded
          links from domainA to domainB will not work, and I have to change all the
          links from domain name to IP?
          Then when we finally go live with our new production server, I have switch
          back to
          domain name, what a mess? I didn't think through all those steps when we
          did
          it.
          Anybody has better solution?
          Thank you so much


          --
          Betty
          >
          >

            Comment

            • Steven Cheng
              #4
              RE: can this be solved using ASP?

              Hi Betty,

              I think host file solution should work for your own internal network since
              you can control the host files for your internal client machines or the
              local DNS server. However, for external network and environment, when they
              visit the ASP pages and visit the link, they'll get the actual IP through
              internet DNS server, I think it will exsit some difference between your
              internal clients. Do you think so?

              Sincerely,

              Steven Cheng

              Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead


              Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and
              suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please
              feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service
              provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at:
              msdnmg@microsof t.com.

              This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

              --------------------
              >Thread-Topic: can this be solved using ASP?
              >thread-index: AciK3xsa1beYvTo rSAy5drl5zfgYPg ==
              >X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 63.241.246.249
              >From: =?Utf-8?B?YzY3NjIyOA= =?= <betty@newsgrou p.nospam>
              >References: <732B66ED-FE25-4E05-A003-1E0B9AE03475@mi crosoft.com>
              <2mgmewLiIHA.46 72@TK2MSFTNGHUB 02.phx.gbl>
              >Subject: RE: can this be solved using ASP?
              >Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:07:01 -0700
              >
              >Hi Steven,
              >
              >I am thinking I will still use host file to map our domain name to our new
              >production server for testing. That way I don't need to write any code or
              >replace any code. But I am not sure if it is OK or if it will confuse
              google
              >search engine or some DNS Servers since our DNS server will still point
              our
              >domain name to our current(old) production server (old IP address).
              >
              >I am just wondering if the real world will see our domain name has two IPs
              >since our new production server is located at public hosting company too.
              >
              >Or the question is if you use another IP to map to a domain name in
              >production for the purpose of testing, will it hurt our current production
              >site?
              >
              >Hopefully
              >--
              >Betty
              >
              >
              >""Steven Cheng"" wrote:
              >
              >Hi Betty,
              >>
              >How many pages or links will you need to replace here? I'm afraid for
              such
              >scenario, there hasn't any quick & simple means to do a replace or
              >redirection. Also, since the problem only occurs during the time your
              pages
              >are deployed on external server and want to test from internal, I think
              >adding additional code logic to do redirection is also not quite
              >reasonable. I will still suggest manually replace those link's
              servername.
              >>
              >Steven Cheng
              >Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead
              >>
              >Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments
              and
              >suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you.
              Please
              >feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service
              >provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at:
              >msdnmg@microsof t.com.
              >>
              >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
              rights.
              >>
              >--------------------
              >>
              >From: =?Utf-8?B?YzY3NjIyOA= =?= <betty@newsgrou p.nospam>
              >Subject: can this be solved using ASP?
              >Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:35:01 -0700
              >>
              >
              >Hi All,
              >
              >Our company is merging two production domains(from two different
              servers)
              >onto one server. So during the migration we use an intranet testing
              server
              >to
              >hold all files from these two domain, when we do testing, we use host
              file
              >to
              >map intranet IPs to these two domains. It will not impact on
              production
              >sites since it won't be seen externally. These two domains navigable
              each
              >other, that means from domainA we have links to domainB, while from
              >domainB,
              >we have links to domainA.
              >These domain names are all hard coded in the program.
              >Now it seems a big problem. When we move all these file to a new
              >production
              >server which is at a public hosting company, we need to do testing, at
              >this
              >moment,
              >old production servers are still running and we have to use IPs to do
              >testing, cannot map IPs to domain names at all. That means all
              hard-coded
              >links from domainA to domainB will not work, and I have to change all
              the
              >links from domain name to IP?
              >Then when we finally go live with our new production server, I have
              switch
              >back to
              >domain name, what a mess? I didn't think through all those steps when
              we
              >did
              >it.
              >Anybody has better solution?
              >Thank you so much
              >
              >
              >--
              >Betty
              >
              >>
              >>
              >

                Comment

                • Steven Cheng
                  #5
                  RE: can this be solved using ASP?

                  Hi Betty,

                  Any progress on this issue? Have you determined which way to do for mapping
                  the server name?

                  Sincerely,

                  Steven Cheng

                  Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead


                  Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and
                  suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please
                  feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service
                  provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at:
                  msdnmg@microsof t.com.

                  This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

                  --------------------
                  >From: stcheng@online. microsoft.com ("Steven Cheng")
                  >Organization : Microsoft
                  >Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:44:46 GMT
                  >Subject: RE: can this be solved using ASP?
                  >
                  >Hi Betty,
                  >
                  >I think host file solution should work for your own internal network since
                  >you can control the host files for your internal client machines or the
                  >local DNS server. However, for external network and environment, when they
                  >visit the ASP pages and visit the link, they'll get the actual IP through
                  >internet DNS server, I think it will exsit some difference between your
                  >internal clients. Do you think so?
                  >
                  >Sincerely,
                  >
                  >Steven Cheng
                  >
                  >Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead
                  >
                  >
                  >Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and
                  >suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please
                  >feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service
                  >provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at:
                  >msdnmg@microso ft.com.
                  >
                  >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
                  >
                  >--------------------
                  >>Thread-Topic: can this be solved using ASP?
                  >>thread-index: AciK3xsa1beYvTo rSAy5drl5zfgYPg ==
                  >>X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 63.241.246.249
                  >>From: =?Utf-8?B?YzY3NjIyOA= =?= <betty@newsgrou p.nospam>
                  >>References: <732B66ED-FE25-4E05-A003-1E0B9AE03475@mi crosoft.com>
                  ><2mgmewLiIHA.4 672@TK2MSFTNGHU B02.phx.gbl>
                  >>Subject: RE: can this be solved using ASP?
                  >>Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:07:01 -0700
                  >
                  >>
                  >>Hi Steven,
                  >>
                  >>I am thinking I will still use host file to map our domain name to our
                  new
                  >>production server for testing. That way I don't need to write any code or
                  >>replace any code. But I am not sure if it is OK or if it will confuse
                  >google
                  >>search engine or some DNS Servers since our DNS server will still point
                  >our
                  >>domain name to our current(old) production server (old IP address).
                  >>
                  >>I am just wondering if the real world will see our domain name has two
                  IPs
                  >>since our new production server is located at public hosting company too.
                  >>
                  >>Or the question is if you use another IP to map to a domain name in
                  >>production for the purpose of testing, will it hurt our current
                  production
                  >>site?
                  >>
                  >>Hopefully
                  >>--
                  >>Betty
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>""Steven Cheng"" wrote:
                  >>
                  >>Hi Betty,
                  >>>
                  >>How many pages or links will you need to replace here? I'm afraid for
                  >such
                  >>scenario, there hasn't any quick & simple means to do a replace or
                  >>redirection . Also, since the problem only occurs during the time your
                  >pages
                  >>are deployed on external server and want to test from internal, I think
                  >>adding additional code logic to do redirection is also not quite
                  >>reasonable. I will still suggest manually replace those link's
                  >servername.
                  >>>
                  >>Steven Cheng
                  >>Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead
                  >>>
                  >>Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments
                  >and
                  >>suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you.
                  >Please
                  >>feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service
                  >>provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at:
                  >>msdnmg@microsof t.com.
                  >>>
                  >>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
                  >rights.
                  >>>
                  >>--------------------
                  >>>
                  >>From: =?Utf-8?B?YzY3NjIyOA= =?= <betty@newsgrou p.nospam>
                  >>Subject: can this be solved using ASP?
                  >>Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:35:01 -0700
                  >>>
                  >>
                  >>Hi All,
                  >>
                  >>Our company is merging two production domains(from two different
                  >servers)
                  >>onto one server. So during the migration we use an intranet testing
                  >server
                  >>to
                  >>hold all files from these two domain, when we do testing, we use host
                  >file
                  >>to
                  >>map intranet IPs to these two domains. It will not impact on
                  >production
                  >>sites since it won't be seen externally. These two domains navigable
                  >each
                  >>other, that means from domainA we have links to domainB, while from
                  >>domainB,
                  >>we have links to domainA.
                  >>These domain names are all hard coded in the program.
                  >>Now it seems a big problem. When we move all these file to a new
                  >>production
                  >>server which is at a public hosting company, we need to do testing, at
                  >>this
                  >>moment,
                  >>old production servers are still running and we have to use IPs to do
                  >>testing, cannot map IPs to domain names at all. That means all
                  >hard-coded
                  >>links from domainA to domainB will not work, and I have to change all
                  >the
                  >>links from domain name to IP?
                  >>Then when we finally go live with our new production server, I have
                  >switch
                  >>back to
                  >>domain name, what a mess? I didn't think through all those steps when
                  >we
                  >>did
                  >>it.
                  >>Anybody has better solution?
                  >>Thank you so much
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>--
                  >>Betty
                  >>
                  >>>
                  >>>
                  >>
                  >
                  >

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