ONE person gets an ASP error....

[Steve Bywaters]

Re: ONE person gets an ASP error....

With due respect, that's nonsense!
If an error occurs because session cookies are turned off that is not the
'fault' of the code.
(If client-side javascript tricks won't run because js is turned off, that's
not the fault of the code, is it?)
You trying too hard... and missing the fundamental point. Tha ASP error is
an artefact not the primary.

Steve


"Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:%23xE5sZCw DHA.2472@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
> It's a server-side ASP error, and it's not the code? It IS the code. You
> have to code for all possible client configurations, and if you do not,[/color]
and[color=blue]
> an error is generated because of it, it's either a problem with the code[/color]
or[color=blue]
> the coder, however you want to look at it.
>
> Ray at work
>
> "Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
> news:eaK1bYCwDH A.3116@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > There are 400+ users on the site... *1* person has the problem.....
> > ie it's not code
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Ray at]

Re: ONE person gets an ASP error....

You are missing the point that it is up to the programmer to deal with
different configurations. It is up to the programmer to decide if he will
deal with users that have JS disabled. You, the owner of the site, need to
make a decision about how much you will cater to the users, and if you
choose not to cater to all of them, write YOUR code accordingly.

Ray at work

"Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
news:%23PjMPfCw DHA.1764@TK2MSF TNGP10.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
> With due respect, that's nonsense!
> If an error occurs because session cookies are turned off that is not the
> 'fault' of the code.
> (If client-side javascript tricks won't run because js is turned off,[/color]
that's[color=blue]
> not the fault of the code, is it?)
> You trying too hard... and missing the fundamental point. Tha ASP error is
> an artefact not the primary.
>
> Steve
>
>
> "Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
> news:%23xE5sZCw DHA.2472@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
> > It's a server-side ASP error, and it's not the code? It IS the code.[/color][/color]
You[color=blue][color=green]
> > have to code for all possible client configurations, and if you do not,[/color]
> and[color=green]
> > an error is generated because of it, it's either a problem with the code[/color]
> or[color=green]
> > the coder, however you want to look at it.
> >
> > Ray at work
> >
> > "Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
> > news:eaK1bYCwDH A.3116@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > There are 400+ users on the site... *1* person has the problem.....
> > > ie it's not code
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>
>[/color]

[Steve Bywaters]

Re: ONE person gets an ASP error....

Thanks for that.... I've passed on your suggestions..we 'll see what happens.

Steve



"Sylvain Lafontaine" <sylvain aei ca (fill the blanks, no spam please)>
wrote in message news:%23YKkn76v DHA.2072@TK2MSF TNGP10.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
> Probably she have disabled her cookies, including session cookies, or she[/color]
is[color=blue]
> behind a firewall or a proxy who block them or she is using some kind of
> anonymiser software.
>
> In all these cases, she will be in a session-less state: the IIS will be
> unable to retain her session's values when going from one page to another
> because her session cookie is blocked or otherwise unavailable.
>
> S. L.
>
>
> "Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
> news:O8J5tn6vDH A.2316@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > No buffering (on these pages)....
> > I understand your hypothesis, but it's not correct in this case
> > Other users are *not* getting the error... they get the correct page
> > display.
> >
> > In fact it is more subtle than this (as indicated in orig. post)..[/color][/color]
because[color=blue][color=green]
> > the line no of failure is a line that gets executed only on failure of
> > access - ie if a session value is not set, they are 'Redirect'ed to a[/color]
> denied[color=green]
> > page (which is failing for ONE user)!!
> > BUT they cannot get to even go to the "failing" page *unless* they ARE
> > logged in correctly....
> >
> > Huh (!?)... I don't get this.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > "Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myFirstNameATl ane34dotKOMM> wrote in message
> > news:%236NFgW6v DHA.2308@TK2MSF TNGP11.phx.gbl. ..[color=darkred]
> > > While I imagine you could purposely cause this error for one person if[/color][/color]
> you[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > really wanted to, i.e.
> > >
> > > <%
> > > if request.serverv ariables("remot e_addr") = "192.168.1. 50" then
> > > response.flush
> > > response.redire ct "elsewhere. asp"
> > > end if
> > > %>
> > >
> > > I'll assume you're not doing that. Are you buffering? What version[/color][/color][/color]
of[color=blue][color=green]
> > IIS?[color=darkred]
> > > IIS 4 (NT 4 with Option Pack) does not buffer by default, where as[/color][/color][/color]
IIS5[color=blue][color=green]
> > and[color=darkred]
> > > over do. Do you have response.buffer = true for good measure? That[/color]
> > should[color=darkred]
> > > avoid this for all people. Perhaps others are just getting a 500[/color][/color][/color]
error,[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > whereas this user has friendly errors disabled, and no one is[/color][/color][/color]
reporting[color=blue][color=green]
> > the[color=darkred]
> > > 500 to you. Turning on buffering should solve the problem. I cannot[/color]
> > think[color=darkred]
> > > of any reason why it would buffer for everyone but one person.
> > >
> > > Ray at home
> > >
> > > "Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
> > > news:OL8ine5vDH A.2456@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > There are several hundred of my client's franchisees happily[/color][/color][/color]
accessing[color=blue][color=green]
> > my[color=darkred]
> > > > ASP/VBscript web site... but one - just one - has reported the[/color]
> > following:[color=darkred]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "I have been trying to log onto the LSM since friday and get this[/color]
> > message[color=darkred]
> > > > when I want to go into any of the items on Home Page.
> > > > Response object error
> > > > 'ASP 0156: '80004000'
> > > > Header error
> > > > /lsm/ListPolls.asp.L ine 21
> > > > The HTTP header are already written to the client browser. Any HTTP[/color]
> > header[color=darkred]
> > > > modifications must be made before writing page content."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have tried the page(s) in question and all is well... so have[/color][/color]
> others -[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > no
> > > > problem.
> > > > So how can ONE person get such a server-side error?
> > > >
> > > > Points:
> > > > * She is using IE6 (.1) on W98
> > > > * I understand that the 'error' often is produced when a Redirect is
> > > issued
> > > > after starting to write the page... and that Response.Buffer will[/color][/color]
> solve[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > that 'problem'. I have used this in the past, when *I* have seen an[/color]
> > error[color=darkred]
> > > > occur, but since she is the only one getting the error, and it
> > > (apparently)
> > > > happens on several pages), that would seem a silly way to go (since[/color][/color][/color]
I[color=blue]
> do[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > NOT
> > > > get the problem)
> > > > * Line 21 - as indicated the offending line - is ONLY called if
> > > > authorisation (via Session var) fails.... but she couldn't have got[/color][/color]
> this[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > far
> > > > into the site unless she *had* logged in, and auth. stored.... ???
> > > >
> > > > Can someone provide more insight as to what's happening?
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Steve Bywaters]

Re: ONE person gets an ASP error....

You lose the bet!

<%
' FileName="Conne ction_ado_conn_ string.htm"
' Type="ADO"
' HTTP="false"
' Catalog=""
' Schema=""
MM_EEM1_STRING = "Driver={SQ L
Server};Server= (local);Databas e=LSM;UID=EEMwe b1;PWD=Clarion5 "
%>


"Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:uAR2teCwDH A.2440@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Yeah, right here:
> <!--#include file="Connectio ns/EEM1.asp" -->
>
> I'd be willing to bet that include has html in it. Would you just buffer
> your damn pages? You're not going to be able to win an argument with your
> server and convince it to do something different.
>
> Ray at work
>
>
>
> "Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
> news:OSb7%23bCw DHA.3196@TK2MSF TNGP11.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
> > Hardly a 'bigger issue'... there are 400+ users on the site... no
> > problems... *ONE* person is getting this anomally, which is caused by
> > (maybe) session cookies.
> >
> > There are plenty of Redirects on the site... none are causing a problem[/color][/color]
to[color=blue][color=green]
> > anyone else!
> > So no - not a 'bigger problem' at all.
> >
> > But haven't ranted a tad <g>.... my code up to the reported problem line[/color]
> is[color=green]
> > included below - for my sake, can you point out *where* I am 'writing a
> > response then redirecting'?
> > (It is standard Dreamweaver, btw)
> >
> > <%@LANGUAGE="VB SCRIPT"%>
> > <!--#include file="Connectio ns/EEM1.asp" -->
> > <!--#include file="Functions .asp" -->
> > <%
> > ' *** Restrict Access To Page: Grant or deny access to this page
> > MM_authorizedUs ers="1,2,3"
> > MM_authFailedUR L="AccessDenied .asp"
> > MM_grantAccess= false
> > If Session("MM_Use rname") <> "" Then
> > If (true Or CStr(Session("M M_UserAuthoriza tion"))="") Or _
> >[/color][/color]
(InStr(1,MM_aut horizedUsers,Se ssion("MM_UserA uthorization")) >=1)[color=blue][color=green]
> > Then
> > MM_grantAccess = true
> > End If
> > End If
> > If Not MM_grantAccess Then
> > MM_qsChar = "?"
> > If (InStr(1,MM_aut hFailedURL,"?") >= 1) Then MM_qsChar = "&"
> > MM_referrer = Request.ServerV ariables("URL")
> > if (Len(Request.Qu eryString()) > 0) Then MM_referrer = MM_referrer &[/color][/color]
"?"[color=blue]
> &[color=green]
> > Request.QuerySt ring()
> > MM_authFailedUR L = MM_authFailedUR L & MM_qsChar & "accessdeni ed=" &
> > Server.URLEncod e(MM_referrer)
> > Response.Redire ct(MM_authFaile dURL)
> >
> >
> > Failure (allegedly) occurs on this last line.
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
> > news:%23OYtgKCw DHA.2880@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=darkred]
> > > You could be right, there. Of course, the bigger issue, in my[/color][/color][/color]
opinion,[color=blue]
> is[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > don't redirect if you're writing a response and not buffering!
> > >
> > > Ray at work
> > >
> > > "Phillip Windell" <none> wrote in message
> > > news:uozHdFCwDH A.540@tk2msftng p13.phx.gbl...
> > > > I think Sylvain has hit on the answer. She has session cookies[/color][/color][/color]
turned[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > off in the browser, so the session get lost each time a new page is
> > > > requested.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Phillip Windell [CCNA, MVP, MCP]
> > > > WAND-TV (ABC Affiliate)
> > > > www.wandtv.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Ray at]

Re: ONE person gets an ASP error....

Yeah, I figured I would after I noticed it was one of those "connection s"
includes that DW creates. DAmn! I'll paypal you a dollar.

RAy at work


"Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
news:e8a3xzCwDH A.3140@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> You lose the bet!
>
> <%
> ' FileName="Conne ction_ado_conn_ string.htm"
> ' Type="ADO"
> ' HTTP="false"
> ' Catalog=""
> ' Schema=""
> MM_EEM1_STRING = "Driver={SQ L
> Server};Server= (local);Databas e=LSM;UID=EEMwe b1;PWD=Clarion5 "
> %>
>
>
> "Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
> news:uAR2teCwDH A.2440@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > Yeah, right here:
> > <!--#include file="Connectio ns/EEM1.asp" -->
> >
> > I'd be willing to bet that include has html in it. Would you just[/color][/color]
buffer[color=blue][color=green]
> > your damn pages? You're not going to be able to win an argument with[/color][/color]
your[color=blue][color=green]
> > server and convince it to do something different.
> >
> > Ray at work[/color]
>[/color]

[Mark Schupp]

Re: ONE person gets an ASP error....

It is the fault of the code.

The code does something *wrong* (it is illegal under IIS/ASP to try to
output headers after content has been output) if the user has cookies
disabled.

Depending on the application, it may or may not be serious enough to worry
about but it is a programming logic error.

--
Mark Schupp
Head of Development
Integrity eLearning

https://www.ielearning.com

"Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
news:%23PjMPfCw DHA.1764@TK2MSF TNGP10.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
> With due respect, that's nonsense!
> If an error occurs because session cookies are turned off that is not the
> 'fault' of the code.
> (If client-side javascript tricks won't run because js is turned off,[/color]
that's[color=blue]
> not the fault of the code, is it?)
> You trying too hard... and missing the fundamental point. Tha ASP error is
> an artefact not the primary.
>
> Steve
>
>
> "Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
> news:%23xE5sZCw DHA.2472@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
> > It's a server-side ASP error, and it's not the code? It IS the code.[/color][/color]
You[color=blue][color=green]
> > have to code for all possible client configurations, and if you do not,[/color]
> and[color=green]
> > an error is generated because of it, it's either a problem with the code[/color]
> or[color=green]
> > the coder, however you want to look at it.
> >
> > Ray at work
> >
> > "Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
> > news:eaK1bYCwDH A.3116@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > There are 400+ users on the site... *1* person has the problem.....
> > > ie it's not code
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>
>[/color]

[Chris Hohmann]

Re: ONE person gets an ASP error....

"Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
news:e8a3xzCwDH A.3140@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> You lose the bet!
>
> <%
> ' FileName="Conne ction_ado_conn_ string.htm"
> ' Type="ADO"
> ' HTTP="false"
> ' Catalog=""
> ' Schema=""
> MM_EEM1_STRING = "Driver={SQ L
> Server};Server= (local);Databas e=LSM;UID=EEMwe b1;PWD=Clarion5 "
> %>[/color]

Can we see Functions.asp as well?

[Meelis Lilbok]

Re: ONE person gets an ASP error....

Set the first row in your page to
<%Response.Buff er=True%>




And thats it

"Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
news:OL8ine5vDH A.2456@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> There are several hundred of my client's franchisees happily accessing my
> ASP/VBscript web site... but one - just one - has reported the following:
>
>
> "I have been trying to log onto the LSM since friday and get this message
> when I want to go into any of the items on Home Page.
> Response object error
> 'ASP 0156: '80004000'
> Header error
> /lsm/ListPolls.asp.L ine 21
> The HTTP header are already written to the client browser. Any HTTP header
> modifications must be made before writing page content."
>
>
> I have tried the page(s) in question and all is well... so have others -[/color]
no[color=blue]
> problem.
> So how can ONE person get such a server-side error?
>
> Points:
> * She is using IE6 (.1) on W98
> * I understand that the 'error' often is produced when a Redirect is[/color]
issued[color=blue]
> after starting to write the page... and that Response.Buffer will solve
> that 'problem'. I have used this in the past, when *I* have seen an error
> occur, but since she is the only one getting the error, and it[/color]
(apparently)[color=blue]
> happens on several pages), that would seem a silly way to go (since I do[/color]
NOT[color=blue]
> get the problem)
> * Line 21 - as indicated the offending line - is ONLY called if
> authorisation (via Session var) fails.... but she couldn't have got this[/color]
far[color=blue]
> into the site unless she *had* logged in, and auth. stored.... ???
>
> Can someone provide more insight as to what's happening?
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>[/color]

[Steve Bywaters]

Re: ONE person gets an ASP error....

Yep, there I think you have me... although it's ASP code, I have spied some
HTML comments/separator lines

I'll return 50c!


"Chris Hohmann" <nospam@thankyo u.com> wrote in message
news:epJZPLEwDH A.2460@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
> news:e8a3xzCwDH A.3140@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > You lose the bet!
> >
> > <%
> > ' FileName="Conne ction_ado_conn_ string.htm"
> > ' Type="ADO"
> > ' HTTP="false"
> > ' Catalog=""
> > ' Schema=""
> > MM_EEM1_STRING = "Driver={SQ L
> > Server};Server= (local);Databas e=LSM;UID=EEMwe b1;PWD=Clarion5 "
> > %>[/color]
>
> Can we see Functions.asp as well?
>
>[/color]

[Ray at]

Re: ONE person gets an ASP error....

This was predicted in the first reply to the question. See Meelis Lilbok's
answer, or anyone else's for that matter.

Ray at work

"Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
news:ObTxDB0wDH A.1272@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Yep, there I think you have me... although it's ASP code, I have spied[/color]
some[color=blue]
> HTML comments/separator lines
>
> I'll return 50c!
>
>
> "Chris Hohmann" <nospam@thankyo u.com> wrote in message
> news:epJZPLEwDH A.2460@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > "Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
> > news:e8a3xzCwDH A.3140@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > You lose the bet!
> > >
> > > <%
> > > ' FileName="Conne ction_ado_conn_ string.htm"
> > > ' Type="ADO"
> > > ' HTTP="false"
> > > ' Catalog=""
> > > ' Schema=""
> > > MM_EEM1_STRING = "Driver={SQ L
> > > Server};Server= (local);Databas e=LSM;UID=EEMwe b1;PWD=Clarion5 "
> > > %>[/color]
> >
> > Can we see Functions.asp as well?
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Steve Bywaters]

Re: ONE person gets an ASP error....

But to be honest, you *were* right - just the wrong include file!

Functions.asp is all pure ASP code... apart from the HTML
comments/separator lines I found in there!! (Now removed).
Solves the problem without having to change any other pages.

I'll return 50c!

Steve






"Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:OxKtK4CwDH A.1424@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Yeah, I figured I would after I noticed it was one of those "connection s"
> includes that DW creates. DAmn! I'll paypal you a dollar.
>
> RAy at work
>
>
> "Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
> news:e8a3xzCwDH A.3140@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > You lose the bet!
> >
> > <%
> > ' FileName="Conne ction_ado_conn_ string.htm"
> > ' Type="ADO"
> > ' HTTP="false"
> > ' Catalog=""
> > ' Schema=""
> > MM_EEM1_STRING = "Driver={SQ L
> > Server};Server= (local);Databas e=LSM;UID=EEMwe b1;PWD=Clarion5 "
> > %>
> >
> >
> > "Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
> > news:uAR2teCwDH A.2440@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > Yeah, right here:
> > > <!--#include file="Connectio ns/EEM1.asp" -->
> > >
> > > I'd be willing to bet that include has html in it. Would you just[/color][/color]
> buffer[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > your damn pages? You're not going to be able to win an argument with[/color][/color]
> your[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > server and convince it to do something different.
> > >
> > > Ray at work[/color]
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Chris Hohmann]

Re: ONE person gets an ASP error....


"Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
news:ObTxDB0wDH A.1272@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Yep, there I think you have me... although it's ASP code, I have spied[/color]
some[color=blue]
> HTML comments/separator lines
>
> I'll return 50c![/color]

My work is done here. Queue "The Incredible Hulk" theme music...

[Steve Bywaters]

Re: ONE person gets an ASP error....

<...Queue "The Incredible Hulk" theme music..>

That's "cue" (not "queue"..). ..
(Down to 25c return!)





"Chris Hohmann" <nospam@thankyo u.com> wrote in message
news:uVAc8N0wDH A.2712@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
> news:ObTxDB0wDH A.1272@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > Yep, there I think you have me... although it's ASP code, I have spied[/color]
> some[color=green]
> > HTML comments/separator lines
> >
> > I'll return 50c![/color]
>
> My work is done here. Queue "The Incredible Hulk" theme music...
>
>[/color]

[Kris Eiben]

Re: ONE person gets an ASP error....

Maybe he had something else playing at the time...

"Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
news:uYqusy7wDH A.2360@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> <...Queue "The Incredible Hulk" theme music..>
>
> That's "cue" (not "queue"..). ..
> (Down to 25c return!)
> "Chris Hohmann" <nospam@thankyo u.com> wrote in message
> news:uVAc8N0wDH A.2712@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> >
> > "Steve Bywaters" <bywaters@bigpo nd.net.au> wrote in message
> > news:ObTxDB0wDH A.1272@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > Yep, there I think you have me... although it's ASP code, I have[/color][/color][/color]
spied[color=blue][color=green]
> > some[color=darkred]
> > > HTML comments/separator lines
> > >
> > > I'll return 50c![/color]
> >
> > My work is done here. Queue "The Incredible Hulk" theme music...[/color][/color]