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  • aklein

    Secured Access 2000 database: Admin has no rights?

    I was given a database to update and am running into the following
    problem:

    The database appears to have been secured using Access security (it is
    an MDB, not MDE). Every form etc that I try to open (in the
    development environment) gives me 2 messages:

    1) "You do not have exclusive access to the database at this time
    etc."
    2) "You don't have permission to read frmWhatever... etc."

    I suspect the issue might be compounded by the fact that the database
    contains many tables that are linked to a SQL Server database that I
    do not (yet) have running in my environment.

    When I open the database (not in design mode) and the startup form
    appears... it appears to have me logged on as Admin (without prompting
    me further... this information appears on the startup form).

    When I look at Security settings in design mode - it lists my Current
    User name as Admin. According to User and Group Accounts information,
    Admin is part of the Admins and Users groups.

    I cannot, however, do anything in the database and the person who
    originally created the database is long gone and the database users do
    not have any helpful information (they were not even aware a SQL
    Server database is being accessed).

    Any ideas how to unsecure the database or to figure out why Admin is
    not able to act as one - would be appreciated!

    Aliza
  • Keith Wilby

    #2
    Re: Secured Access 2000 database: Admin has no rights?

    "aklein" <abklein@optonl ine.netwrote in message
    news:077c84a6-b01b-4470-bac2-94fdd5236ff4@k1 3g2000hse.googl egroups.com...
    >
    Any ideas how to unsecure the database or to figure out why Admin is
    not able to act as one - would be appreciated!
    >
    I suspect that Admin is not the *owner* of the objects. Try importing the
    objects into a new file.

    Regards,
    Keith.


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    • aklein

      #3
      Re: Secured Access 2000 database: Admin has no rights?

      Any ideas how tounsecuretheda tabaseor to figure out why Admin is
      not able to act as one - would be appreciated!
      >
      I suspect that Admin is not the *owner* of the objects.  Try importing the
      objects into a new file.
      >
      Regards,
      Keith.www.keithwilby.com
      When I try to import a form to a new file - I get the same message: I
      do not have the permissions necessary to import the file.

      Help?
      Aliza

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      • Keith Wilby

        #4
        Re: Secured Access 2000 database: Admin has no rights?

        "aklein" <abklein@optonl ine.netwrote in message
        news:15370430-cc71-47bd-8294-a01e153ef147@e3 9g2000hsf.googl egroups.com...

        You need to log in to the database as it's owner which sounds as if it's the
        person who applied security. If that's not an option then you may have to
        use a third party program to break the security. Perhaps someone else could
        jump in here (Joan?).

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        • aklein

          #5
          Re: Secured Access 2000 database: Admin has no rights?

          On Jul 23, 11:08 am, "Keith Wilby" <h...@there.com wrote:
          "aklein" <abkl...@optonl ine.netwrote in message
          >
          news:15370430-cc71-47bd-8294-a01e153ef147@e3 9g2000hsf.googl egroups.com...
          >
          You need to log in to the database as it's owner which sounds as if it's the
          person who applied security.  If that's not an option then you may haveto
          use a third party program to break the security.  Perhaps someone else could
          jump in here (Joan?).
          If anyone can recommend a third party - I would certainly consider
          that route.

          The original database creator (who I presume set the security) is long
          gone... the database objects are listed as an "<unknown>" owner.

          I have tried looking at the mdw files (I have found a couple different
          options that were sent to me along with the mdb file) but have had no
          success.

          Any ideas?

          (It also is preventing me from updating my linked tables to my local
          copy of the SQL Server database.)

          Aliza

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          • Chris O'C via AccessMonster.com

            #6
            Re: Secured Access 2000 database: Admin has no rights?

            The db objects show <unknownas the owner because you aren't joined to the
            workgroup used to secure the db. People usually make mistakes when trying to
            secure a db. One of them is to forget to remove all permissions to the
            default admin user. That's why you're able to open the db, even without the
            secured mdw file.

            Try changing all of the db objects from the <unknownowner to the admin user.
            Any objects you can change the ownership of to admin you can import into a
            new db where admin is the owner.

            Chris
            Microsoft MVP


            aklein wrote:
            >You need to log in to the database as it's owner which sounds as if it's the
            >person who applied security.  If that's not an option then you may have to
            >use a third party program to break the security.  Perhaps someone else could
            >jump in here (Joan?).
            >
            >If anyone can recommend a third party - I would certainly consider
            >that route.
            >
            >The original database creator (who I presume set the security) is long
            >gone... the database objects are listed as an "<unknown>" owner.
            >
            >I have tried looking at the mdw files (I have found a couple different
            >options that were sent to me along with the mdb file) but have had no
            >success.
            >
            >Any ideas?
            >
            >(It also is preventing me from updating my linked tables to my local
            >copy of the SQL Server database.)
            >
            >Aliza
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            • aklein

              #7
              Re: Secured Access 2000 database: Admin has no rights?

              On Jul 23, 11:49 pm, "Chris O'C via AccessMonster.c om" <u29189@uwe>
              wrote:
              The db objects show <unknownas the owner because you aren't joined to the
              workgroup used to secure the db.  People usually make mistakes when trying to
              secure a db.  One of them is to forget to remove all permissions to the
              defaultadminuse r.  That's why you're able to open the db, even without the
              secured mdw file.
              >
              Try changing all of the db objects from the <unknownowner to theadminuser.
              Any objects you can change the ownership of toadminyou can import into a
              new db whereadminis the owner.
              >
              Chris
              Microsoft MVP
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              akleinwrote:
              You need to log in to the database as it's owner which sounds as if it's the
              person who applied security.  If that's not an option then you may have to
              use a third party program to break the security.  Perhaps someone else could
              jump in here (Joan?).
              >
              If anyone can recommend a third party - I would certainly consider
              that route.
              >
              The original database creator (who I presume set the security) is long
              gone... the database objects are listed as an "<unknown>" owner.
              >
              I have tried looking at the mdw files (I have found a couple different
              options that were sent to me along with the mdb file) but have had no
              success.
              >
              Any ideas?
              >
              (It also is preventing me from updating my linked tables to my local
              copy of the SQL Server database.)
              >
              Aliza
              >
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              Message posted via AccessMonster.c omhttp://www.accessmonst er.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/databases-ms-access/2008...- Hide quoted text -
              >
              - Show quoted text -
              Thanks for the idea... but I have already tried to change ownership
              and have been told I have no rights. I have also tried to import the
              forms and again, was told that I don't have permission to do that.

              Hmmmm.... any other thoughts? I appreciate them all!
              Aliza

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              • Keith Wilby

                #8
                Re: Secured Access 2000 database: Admin has no rights?

                "aklein" <abklein@optonl ine.netwrote in message
                news:da73d191-4777-47e1-bebd-e2bfb86bcf4a@z7 2g2000hsb.googl egroups.com...
                Hmmmm.... any other thoughts? I appreciate them all!
                Google for "ms access password recovery" then take your pick.

                Keith.


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                • Chris O'C via AccessMonster.com

                  #9
                  Re: Secured Access 2000 database: Admin has no rights?

                  What about the other mdw files? Were you given a member of the admins
                  group's user name and password for each of them so you could try opening the
                  db with permissions?

                  Chris
                  Microsoft MVP


                  aklein wrote:
                  >Thanks for the idea... but I have already tried to change ownership
                  >and have been told I have no rights. I have also tried to import the
                  >forms and again, was told that I don't have permission to do that.
                  >
                  >Hmmmm.... any other thoughts? I appreciate them all!
                  >Aliza
                  --
                  Message posted via AccessMonster.c om


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